New investigative piece on German tv (ZDF this time, not ARD (=Hajo Seppelt))
Key point: ADAK is taking bribes from managers to cover up positive tests
New investigative piece on German tv (ZDF this time, not ARD (=Hajo Seppelt))
Key point: ADAK is taking bribes from managers to cover up positive tests
Naglfar wrote:
New investigative piece on German tv (ZDF this time, not ARD (=Hajo Seppelt))
Key point: ADAK is taking bribes from managers to cover up positive tests
Would you mind to post a link? Thank you in advance!
Naglfar: The hero we need but don't deserve.
A London positive wrote:
Would you mind to post a link? Thank you in advance!
will do, but it's not yet available
There is a 35 minute and a 7 minute report on Kenya's doping, both new, July 30 the date. Unfortunately, in clicking on it I got the message that it can't be shown to people outside Germany, so you'd need a special IP address to see it.
Why are they hiding it for people outside of germany? Is that fact that they are posting the video in german not enough??
I don't understand German but the report can be seen here. Seems to focus mainly on the Rosas, Rita Jeptoo and Jemima Sumgong. There's an interview with a marathoner called Matthew Sigei and a guy who's identity's been concealed. There's also old footage from the old ARD with the hidden camera report showing a doctor/pharmacist injecting a supposed athlete.
We need someone who speaks German to translate the whole thing.
https://www.zdf.de/sport/zdf-sportreportage/zdf-sportreportage-clip-4-152.html
The report is about 7 minutes and even though I don't understand a word of German, seems to be rehashing last year's scandal? I tried to decipher what marathoner was saying in Swahili under the voiceover and he seemed to be talking about the Rosas.
from timestamp 16:35
- an anoymous runner claims that 3/4 of the people in his training camp are taking peds
- Matthew Kipkorir Sigei says that Rosa Associati is forcing their athletes to take peds. Federico Rosa personally supervised a doctor administering EPO to his athletes, in addition to his usual 15% of winnings Rosa took an extra 20% to cover up doping
- next they are recapping last year's arrest of Federico and his claims that this was all a Kenyan ploy to get rid of foreign managers
- they say a few days ago Rita Jeptoo claimed in court that Berardelli and Rosa were complicit in her doping
- another anonymous source says that Rosa is bribing testers
- next they interview someone working for ADAK who claims nearly everyone there is earning money on the side by covering up positive tests. Before they publish a positive test, they contact the manager of the athlete and ask him, whether he is willing to pay for a coverup. If he pays, the positive is never published.
The source also claims, that Sumgong already had a positive test before the one this year. There was a dispute with Rosa about money paid for the first test, so they decided to publish the second one, also because they needed to pop a big name to show they were doing something against doping
- ZDF contacted WADA about this. Their answer: the below has been sent to our independent intelligence & investigation department and we are therefore unable to comment further"
Naglfar wrote:
New investigative piece on German tv (ZDF this time, not ARD (=Hajo Seppelt))
Key point: ADAK is taking bribes from managers to cover up positive tests
No surprise there. Why would AKAD be any better than USADA?
Naglfar wrote:
https://www.zdf.de/sport/zdf-sportreportage/zdf-sportreportage-vom-30-juli-2017-100.htmlfrom timestamp 16:35
- an anoymous runner claims that 3/4 of the people in his training camp are taking peds
- Matthew Kipkorir Sigei says that Rosa Associati is forcing their athletes to take peds. Federico Rosa personally supervised a doctor administering EPO to his athletes, in addition to his usual 15% of winnings Rosa took an extra 20% to cover up doping
- next they are recapping last year's arrest of Federico and his claims that this was all a Kenyan ploy to get rid of foreign managers
- they say a few days ago Rita Jeptoo claimed in court that Berardelli and Rosa were complicit in her doping
- another anonymous source says that Rosa is bribing testers
- next they interview someone working for ADAK who claims nearly everyone there is earning money on the side by covering up positive tests. Before they publish a positive test, they contact the manager of the athlete and ask him, whether he is willing to pay for a coverup. If he pays, the positive is never published.
The source also claims, that Sumgong already had a positive test before the one this year. There was a dispute with Rosa about money paid for the first test, so they decided to publish the second one, also because they needed to pop a big name to show they were doing something against doping
- ZDF contacted WADA about this. Their answer: the below has been sent to our independent intelligence & investigation department and we are therefore unable to comment further"
1) this is not really a surprise.
2) I can't really find an English version to read.
3) It looks to me that the Rosas have a blackmail scheme going on. They give naive athletes PEDs then extort 💲from them or they will throw them under the bus.
4) if a balco-type investigation looked into the Rosa sphere, this could bring many down. This would be good news.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Naglfar wrote:https://www.zdf.de/sport/zdf-sportreportage/zdf-sportreportage-vom-30-juli-2017-100.htmlfrom timestamp 16:35
- an anoymous runner claims that 3/4 of the people in his training camp are taking peds
- Matthew Kipkorir Sigei says that Rosa Associati is forcing their athletes to take peds. Federico Rosa personally supervised a doctor administering EPO to his athletes, in addition to his usual 15% of winnings Rosa took an extra 20% to cover up doping
- next they are recapping last year's arrest of Federico and his claims that this was all a Kenyan ploy to get rid of foreign managers
- they say a few days ago Rita Jeptoo claimed in court that Berardelli and Rosa were complicit in her doping
- another anonymous source says that Rosa is bribing testers
- next they interview someone working for ADAK who claims nearly everyone there is earning money on the side by covering up positive tests. Before they publish a positive test, they contact the manager of the athlete and ask him, whether he is willing to pay for a coverup. If he pays, the positive is never published.
The source also claims, that Sumgong already had a positive test before the one this year. There was a dispute with Rosa about money paid for the first test, so they decided to publish the second one, also because they needed to pop a big name to show they were doing something against doping
- ZDF contacted WADA about this. Their answer: the below has been sent to our independent intelligence & investigation department and we are therefore unable to comment further"
1) this is not really a surprise.
2) I can't really find an English version to read.
3) It looks to me that the Rosas have a blackmail scheme going on. They give naive athletes PEDs then extort 💲from them or they will throw them under the bus.
4) if a balco-type investigation looked into the Rosa sphere, this could bring many down. This would be good news.
I want to believe #4, Subway; but based on the Aden affair, I have little hope for something like that to transpire.
Back to China for Renato
You misspelled NOP.
did they ask the Rosas for comment?
After starting that segment with a note that at the recent under 18 champs where Kenya was cleaning up in the medals, there were lots of Europeans there to spot and sign talent. Then they go to the track in Iten where a Kenyan long distance runner says 3/4 of athletes in the camps are doping, it's no nonsense (quatsch), and especially the top athletes, the best of the elite. The Matthew Sigei mentioned was with Rosa Associati for 11 years. You want to win, we'll help you win, they'd say. The results after the doping covering fee come back as with no suspicion. Their use of leaves to conceal the identity of the next guy is comical. There's no much chaos in the room, so I couldn't hear all that much, but it didn't sound like the details were more than needed investigation. Corruption in a third world country would be just a matter of course if we didn't care about the results outside the country. There's a ton of corruption involved here and unfortunately the corruption goes through the European institutions as well.
This story seems a lot different than the 'rojo interviews Dr. Gabriele Rosa" story on LetsRun.com from last year...which was about turning Jemima Sumgong into a marathon star!
Then something happened to the marathon star.
Here are some runners managed by Federico Rosa:
1) Pamela Chepchumba (managed by Federico Rosa, banned for EPO at the 2003 World XC Championships.)
2) Agatha Jeruto (800m runner coached by Claudio Berardelli, managed by Federico Rosa) banned 4 years in 2015 for 19-norandrosterone positive doping test (major metabolite of nandrolone.)
3) Matthew Kisorio (58:46 half marathoner coached by Claudio Berardelli, managed by Federico Rosa, banned in 2012 for the anabolic steroid nandrolone, which is administered by IM injection, also talked in interview about drugs injected which increased oxygen in blood and endurance… which sounds like EPO to me.)
4) Rita Jeptoo (2:18:57 marathoner, coached by Claudio Berardelli, managed by Federico Rosa, banned 4 years for EPO use at Boston and Chicago marathons in 2014.)
5) Jemima Sumgong (2016 Olympic Gold medalist and winner of 2016 London marathon, former training partner of Rita Jeptoo, managed by Federico Rosa)
Then something happened to the training partners of Jemima Sumgong:
Gabriele Rosa came from Italy. He was previously in the sport of CYCLING. He started his first training camp in Kenya in 1991. Federico Rosa came to Kenya in 1996. Claudio Berardelli came to Kenya in 2004. Today they have 5 training camps in Kenya.
Gabriele Rosa and Federico Rosa have just had some very bad luck with some of their runners.
Renato Canova can now come to the forum and tell everyone that this is just another fake news story.
It is just a coincidence.
Thanks. Matthew Kipkorir Sigei's IAAF profile page:
Last noted performances since 2010 are a couple of 2:16 marathons, all in Asia, but he had a 2:09 PB from 2003.
ADAK is new and seems starkly professional and transparent, compared to other Kenyan institutions, so he could be talking about the past corruption covered in ARD pieces conflating it with the current body. Anyway, we know last word with the samples is not in Kenya's hands so the Rosas would have to be bribing WADA as well which seems a bit of a stretch. And the people speaking don't appear to have a grasp of the testing process and the checks and balances set up to prevent localised falsifications.
Not denying a problem exists, but this piece (like ARD's last one) seems prime to poke holes and somewhat flimsy. Obviously WADA will look into it. But from someone like me on the outside looking in: the Rosas look dodgy as hell and I would steer clear if I was an up and coming athlete. Hopefully those kids at the U18s have the right advice and guidance and someone to steer them away from those vultures from Europe scouting for talent.
Ethiopia has the right setup where every aspect of athletics and athletes lives and options are controlled by the state. Foreign entities and people just can't walk in and operate without government scrutiny and approval. Which is why you won't be seeing investigative pieces like these from there because even journalists have to go through strict government vetting to be allowed in. I'm not saying Kenya should give up its freedoms and adopt that sort of state control, but some control can't be so bad because currently, it's a free-for all in Kenya, and that opens the door to plenty of unsavoury types.
Sigei's profile. Can't still be with Rosa associatti judging from his performances.
https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/matthew-kipkorir-sigei-189206
ADAK's Twitter for anyone wants to see if they'll react to the piece which doesn't seem to have made news in Kenya.
Even the blind can see that.