Best jump in the last seven years is 12th all time. Why?
Best jump in the last seven years is 12th all time. Why?
Lesser bodies through less chemistry.
Also, much more money to be made on the track--so a speed guy with any chance of being competitive in the 100/200 is less likely to mess with LJ.
Do you know how much sprinters get paid to run 10.0?
It's more lucrative to lose sprints than win long jump.
I don't know.
It seemed to start with Leroy Burrell who was a very good long jumper that gave it up to focus on the 100 even while his traing partner, Carl Lewis, thrived at both simultaneously.
Other good college sprinters/ jumpers gave up jumping.
Today's top jumpers are those who couldn't cut it as sprinters and therefore have less talent for jumping.
And Mike Conley Jr went with basketball.
It's more than sprinters just not jumping. In college with trained with guys that were both around 28 feet and neither were particularly fast. I'm not sure what the reason is.
Carl Lewis didn't exactly thrive at sprints and long jump simultaneously. Carl Lewis was good enough to win an Olympic medal in long jump in 1980 (western nations boycott). Even after Carl Lewis had lost his world class 100/200 speed, Lewis was still a great long jumper. See 1996 Olympics.
Could say the same for a distance events too 5 k 10 k
carlactually wrote:
Best jump in the last seven years is 12th all time. Why?
especially 10 000m
Steroids is part of the reason
It's boring. People would rather jump high or jump 3 times, and those ones are doing great.
Dear carlactually:
The answer is basketball/football - full scholarships; track, only if you are a bona fide stud.
Basketball is perhaps the single greatest track and field talent suck on the planet. I can post videos of AAU and EYBL players that could easily be trained to hit 8m/26.
Coach Tellez and Carl Lewis have both stated that basketball and football to a lesser extent (hits, higher muscle-mass, low-intensity training, injuries) also sucks up track and field talent that many times just sits on the bench or has to "share" playing time.
One athlete female athlete I know is the equivalent of an all-state talent in the heptathlon but sat the bench in club girl's basketball for 2 whole years. Can high jump 1.50m with NO practice, doesn't lift weights or even do plyos.
Another of my former athletes who won the city 100m, 200m, 400m (second biggest in the region) sat the bench in boys' club basketball for 3 years. He could have represented his nation in the decathlon at the U17, U19, and FISU Games.
I know of another junior-level athlete who represented his nation quit track for football.
Track and Field is a tough sell to kids and parents.
Runfastrunfar wrote:
Dear carlactually:
The answer is basketball/football - full scholarships; track, only if you are a bona fide stud.
Basketball is perhaps the single greatest track and field talent suck on the planet. I can post videos of AAU and EYBL players that could easily be trained to hit 8m/26.
Coach Tellez and Carl Lewis have both stated that basketball and football to a lesser extent (hits, higher muscle-mass, low-intensity training, injuries) also sucks up track and field talent that many times just sits on the bench or has to "share" playing time.
One athlete female athlete I know is the equivalent of an all-state talent in the heptathlon but sat the bench in club girl's basketball for 2 whole years. Can high jump 1.50m with NO practice, doesn't lift weights or even do plyos.
Another of my former athletes who won the city 100m, 200m, 400m (second biggest in the region) sat the bench in boys' club basketball for 3 years. He could have represented his nation in the decathlon at the U17, U19, and FISU Games.
I know of another junior-level athlete who represented his nation quit track for football.
Track and Field is a tough sell to kids and parents.
How tall is the average male basketball player?They are going to be too tall for the long jump
Mtn Dew wrote:
It's more than sprinters just not jumping. In college with trained with guys that were both around 28 feet and neither were particularly fast. I'm not sure what the reason is.
Ummm... to jump 28ft, one absolutely has 'speed'. Basic physics completely supports my point.
Besides the 200 metres, the long jump is correlated most with 100 metres speed. I looked up injury rate of long jumpers versus 100 metres sprinters. Long jumpers tend to be injured less than 100 metres sprinters. I would assume that doing both 100m & LJ increases risk to injury. I looked up on athletic.net the number of high school boys who jump over 24 1/2 feet each year. The number has been stable, a bit over a dozen boys each year going back to 2009. Do college track & field coaches recruit 24 1/2 ft. plus long jumpers as hard as track & field coaches recruit sub-8:55 3200 metres runners?
ironside wrote:
Carl Lewis didn't exactly thrive at sprints and long jump simultaneously.
What does that mean? Carl Lewis won gold medals in the long jump and 100 meters in 2 different Olymiads and two different World Championships. How is that not thriving in both at the same time?
Did you read what I stated? Carl Lewis qualified for 5 USA Olympic teams in long jump. Carl Lewis was not considered an elite sprinter in 1980. Carl Lewis was not an elite sprinter in 1996 but still won Olympic gold in long jump. Look up the word simultaneous! Are you the poster who state simultaneous originally? Don't be a coward and change your name in the middle of a thread if it is you.
Thanks for the insight.
Runfastrunfar wrote:
Dear carlactually:
The answer is basketball/football - full scholarships; track, only if you are a bona fide stud.
Basketball is perhaps the single greatest track and field talent suck on the planet. I can post videos of AAU and EYBL players that could easily be trained to hit 8m/26.
Coach Tellez and Carl Lewis have both stated that basketball and football to a lesser extent (hits, higher muscle-mass, low-intensity training, injuries) also sucks up track and field talent that many times just sits on the bench or has to "share" playing time.
One athlete female athlete I know is the equivalent of an all-state talent in the heptathlon but sat the bench in club girl's basketball for 2 whole years. Can high jump 1.50m with NO practice, doesn't lift weights or even do plyos.
Another of my former athletes who won the city 100m, 200m, 400m (second biggest in the region) sat the bench in boys' club basketball for 3 years. He could have represented his nation in the decathlon at the U17, U19, and FISU Games.
I know of another junior-level athlete who represented his nation quit track for football.
Track and Field is a tough sell to kids and parents.
ironside wrote:
Did you read what I stated? Carl Lewis qualified for 5 USA Olympic teams in long jump. Carl Lewis was not considered an elite sprinter in 1980. Carl Lewis was not an elite sprinter in 1996 but still won Olympic gold in long jump. Look up the word simultaneous! Are you the poster who state simultaneous originally? Don't be a coward and change your name in the middle of a thread if it is you.
Were you alive in the 80s? Lewis was the best sprinter and long jumper simultaneously for at least 6 years.