People say large quads are bad for long distance. But one of the only runners with large quads happened to be the best ever. It definitely helped with cross country as he had so much more stability and he had more power in the legs towards the end. Did it help for track. I feel like if the muscles were aerobic it would help a lot and act as engines?
No, he just ran on more hate than anyone else
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Sorry OP, but your thunder thighs don't indicate that you have talent.
Big Quads?? wrote:
People say large quads are bad for long distance. ?
Which people? Can you name them?
VASTUS MEDIALIS. I dare you to find an elite long distance runner with a larger VM than Bekele because you can't and you won't but I dare you to try.
He has larger quad muscles housing larger mitochondria connected to larger blood vessels with more blood from a larger heart that has more oxygen from larger lungs housed in a larger chest cavity, per kg of body weight.
He can't help it if EPO gave him thunder thighs.
He's got electric motors in those thighs.
Under slow motion Bekele had the same technique as Ben Johnson.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Under slow motion Bekele had the same technique as Ben Johnson.
Did he.. Did he... Did he put one foot in front of the other?
Definitely!...and I should know - they don't call me "Thunder Thighs" for nothing. Yeah baby!
shocked! wrote:
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:Under slow motion Bekele had the same technique as Ben Johnson.
Did he.. Did he... Did he put one foot in front of the other?
You utter moron. I was referring to the short, quick strides that lacked a bounding component with an inverted heel in his gait. This is not surprising given his early coaches in the late 1990s-early 2000s were anchored in 1980s sprint training techniques.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
shocked! wrote:Did he.. Did he... Did he put one foot in front of the other?
You utter moron. I was referring to the short, quick strides that lacked a bounding component with an inverted heel in his gait. This is not surprising given his early coaches in the late 1990s-early 2000s were anchored in 1980s sprint training techniques.
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Big Quads?? wrote:People say large quads are bad for long distance. But one of the only runners with large quads happened to be the best ever. It definitely helped with cross country as he had so much more stability and he had more power in the legs towards the end. Did it help for track. I feel like if the muscles were aerobic it would help a lot and act as engines?
yes
kennster's powerful thighs was the difference between him & the kenyans
he did not have better endurance than the other kenyans as the ratio 12'37/26'17 is actually inferior to a guy with 13'00/27'00 ratio
( a typical 2nd tier kenyan )
however, kennster did lot of weights which kenyans don't do & i have been imploring Canova to tell the top kenyans to do
( you can see end results as the great Korir started doing serious weights at UTEP & smashed his 400 down from ?46+ to 44.5 & 43.34 relay leg which equates to 44-flat open !!! )
the end result was that kennster likely had something like 51-flat speed whereas the best of the kenyans who didn't weight train had something like 51-high/52-flat speed
that doesn't seem much difference but extrapolated to 5k/10k, it makes the difference between 12'50 & 12'37 or 26'40 & 26'17...
calculo wrote:
( you can see end results as the great Korir started doing serious weights at UTEP & smashed his 400 down from ?46+ to 44.5 & 43.34 relay leg which equates to 44-flat open !!! )
here is actual 5k example of a Kenyan who obviously weight-trained to become "biggest kicker" of the year
https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/abraham-chebii-169928A week later, in Paris, followed famous kick of Haile Gebrselassie with faster one of his own, leaving the "Emperor" nearly a second adrift (12:53.37 to 12:54.36), and a week after that blew past both Haile and Kenenisa in Rome (12:57.14)
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Abraham Chebii may be the most explosive kicker in recent distance running history. Even in an era in which a top-class 5000 runner has to be able to close a 13:00 race with a 55 second last lap, Chebii stands out. In the Grand Prix Final at the end of the 2002 season, he clocked 50.68 for his last 400 meters, and he didn't start his full sprint until 250 to go. As he says, however, "It is easy to kick when the pace is slow. You must be able to follow a fast pace and then kick." Which is what he trained himself to do over the 2002-2003 off-season. The most convincing evidence of that training's effectiveness came in the Rome GL, where Haile Gebrselassie, having been outsprinted by Chebii in Paris, started driving for home from 600 meters out, with Kenenisa Bekele and Chebii in tow. Haile was spent by the final turn and moved wide to let Kenenisa through, but Chebii slipped through the gap as well and bounded after the sprinting Kenenisa. He passed the Ethiopian with 50 to go and was timed at sub-25 for his last 200 -- in a 12:57 race
here is brief vid of him destroying the 2 runts :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU9U2aB-T6UThe outside appearance of the muscles is no indication to anything, it is the same as having a big nose or a big head
no offense, but i have come to realize that a runner's standard of a "big" or "muscular" person is very off. a man who is 5'6 and 123lbs is not large. he has small calves as that is only used as a stabilizer for him, he does not put power in toe-off and has low air time, unlike a sprinter. he has a very quick turn over and uses his hamstrings and quads a lot, which is why his are slightly larger than his competitors who are underweight kenyans which LRCers believe are the ideal runner. someone who is 6' and 130 or 6' and 165 can have the same success it just depends on if their weight and musculature is ideal for their running style.
Renato actually said that bekeles leg muscles were the difference