Central Michigan

Granted, Mt Pleasant isn't exactly a "happening" place. It's not that bad either though. There's a nice microbrewery in town, all "chain" restaurants (I know, I know... still better than nothing though!), a legit sushi place, a decent tapas place, the most breakfast joint in the state, decent park/trail system for running, miles of rolling hills just east of town, and they remodeled the Meijer lol

*most delicious breakfast joint

*just west of town

Bump

CMU has the talent and the heart. They just need new leadership.

Biscuits wrote:

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CMU has the talent and the heart. They just need new leadership.

You seem to have some inside there... Who are they interviewing?

You got that right.... Stans is the best breakfast place in Mid-Mich area.

Not going to say names but a lot of people around the country are interviewing for this job. It has a huge upside. If they find the right leadership, CMU could be a force to be reckoned with.

Biscuits wrote:

Not going to say names but a lot of people around the country are interviewing for this job. It has a huge upside. If they find the right leadership, CMU could be a force to be reckoned with.

This is the most ridiculous thing I have heard all week. There is no way a ton of people are interviewing, this job is not exactly a highly sought after position.....they had to practically drag Guthrie over here......I dont blame him retiring after a couple years...

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The program is not supported by the university. Does anyone understand what that means? It means if you have a kid that you want to walk on and will walk on you can't. There are mid 15s kids at CMU that wanted to run and they can't be on the team. Meanwhile the team has kids running in the 17s.

I don't want to hear the redshirt crap, maybe they will be better next year but they will still suck.

Also take a look at how the D1 xc champ did in track...

Please direct those mid 15 kids to Matt Kaczor's office if they still go there--would love to have them.

Haha, do you think I would have posted that if those kids hadn't tried that. He isn't interested. So either:

1. Ridiculous roster limits so he can't add good kids that want to be there.

2. He doesn't want more kids cause he is lazy and likes coaching small terrible teams.

This is easy to resolve! Name a CMU student on campus who is posting 15 min 5ks and not on the team. We will be waiting.

Off the top of my head - Walker Priest. I only know that one because he graduated from Shepherd which is 10 minutes down the road from here (Mt Pleasant).

I have no horse in this race, but 15:50 at Portage Invite doesn't meet the criteria specified above.

Data Miner wrote:

I have no horse in this race, but 15:50 at Portage Invite doesn't meet the criteria specified above.

Fair enough.

I guess the main point here is that there is at least one kid on campus who was presumably told he could not walk on (I don't know Walker very well; I coached at a neighboring school. However, I do know that he wanted to walk on at CMU) despite the fact that he is a couple of mins faster than some of their current team members. 15:49 at Portage is not bad for a team whose top kid is running 33 minutes for 10,000m at the league championships. I mean, my goodness, I am a local nobody and would SMASH those kids. I am not bragging, just stating a sad fact.

Anyways, why wouldn't you let a sub-16 kid walk on unless your numbers were being extremely limited by the administration? Honestly, if they don't have roster limits and Kaczor is simply refusing kids, then a leadership change might actually solve their problems. I find that hard to believe though. No one could be that incompetent. I know and like Kaczor and can't believe he would willingly make that type of call.

Well it's 15:48 if you want to get technical, yes may not be the mid 15s like Indoor? said but I'd guess there might be some out there, lot of talent walking around campus and in our area that doesn't make it to the team.

Walker was completely under trained in HS running a max of 40 a week and ran 15:48 on that. He goes to CMU, wanted to run when he was a Senior and his mom works there so just wanted to walk on and was told no. We also have a kid who played basketball 4 years and was a low 16s kid who we is going to CMU and we checked on and also no interest. Maybe it's just us.

Also along with us Caleb Rhynard growing up 7 miles from campus never got a phone call as a Foot Locker qualifier and neither did his Sub 5 minute 1600 sister who has went on to be a D2 All Region runner while playing softball at GVSU. Maybe they don't go there, but I'd kick the tires with all the local studs I possibly can.

No horse in this race either and I'm not saying that he shouldn't be able to walk on, but a 15:48 at the notoriously short Portage Invite is not something to base anything on.

Regardless, even if he ran 16:20, why don't teams like this have a team time trial to see where kids are at? I've seen this done at many schools and it surely helps both the coaches and runners.

Geez already, come on!

It's certainly fast but not short, I've wheeled it numerous times. And I agree be nice if he had gotten a chance to prove himself in time trial or something.

Did run 16:14 at MIS his senior year which while always fast was a mud pit that year.

Not calling you a liar, but every coach that I talk to said it's short and always has been. I guess next time I'll ask if they actually wheeled it from point to point, the runners shortest possible path. So many pr's there by huge amounts.

Simple time trial, that's all it takes. Look across the country at cc university websites. Many will show a time trial result which is how they pick the bulk of the runners (yes, there are exceptions). I coached as well, btw;) We did it every year. Very simple. Who trained this summer and who really wants it.