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Same as subject^^
Stupid thread! It's not the miles in the man, but the man in the miles!!! Some do not need 6 miles a week. Especially HS kids and college women!!!
^^^^ 60 miles a week!
It doesn't help when colleges are encouraging kids to do less mileage. It's now not only the times you run that make an impact, but the amount of mileage you put in to those times, and they like kids that have higher ceilings for improvement.
I agree but have you seen kids these days? They're weak. No backbone. Only time they have backbone is on social media.
I saw a local HS track team while getting lunch. They ran maybe 2 miles and they walked back to school because it was way too hot. Hmmm. You're not in shape by May?????
May is championship season. Maybe it was a shake out for a race the next day.
Allie O college only doing 50....
Fisher only did 50....
Could go on, number miles mean nothing, it's about the quality
So your mileage benchmark is the same for all high schoolers from freshmen who are brand new to the sport to seniors who have been running for years? This seems ill-conceived. I ran for a high school team that trained harder than most. Even we didn't just throw freshmen into 60+ mpw training (or anything close to that).
I ran all of my PRs on 10-15 miles per week after trying for years doing 60-100 miles per week. For some people, intensity is the only training stimulus that helps. For others, it's duration.
Too much mileage = injuries not improvement.
And if you're not doing 20 of them in an Alter G and 20 on an underwater treadmill...
But then they won't improve as much in college!
I guarantee that if you're a high schooler running 60+ MPW you're going to be racing to win most races. 60 mpw is maybe 60 minutes of running each day. Football, basketball, baseball all have longer practices.
Moo Goo wrote:
I agree but have you seen kids these days? They're weak. No backbone. Only time they have backbone is on social media.
I saw a local HS track team while getting lunch. They ran maybe 2 miles and they walked back to school because it was way too hot. Hmmm. You're not in shape by May?????
Are you kidding me? A HS track team...not a science or engineering club? Great balls of fire...what would McFarland say?
Arthur L wrote:
Too much mileage = injuries not improvement.
I thought the new trend with some of these coaches is to "run through injuries?" 🤔
Hasn't been said yer wrote:
But then they won't improve as much in college!
Everyone told me in high school that I wouldn't improve if I did 70 mpw my senior year (I did anyways). Got up to 110 mpw in college and I was beating former state champions on a weekly basis by my junior year of college. (I finished 30th+ place at our state meet).
It's all about consistency. If I were to coach high school, I would have most of the team 60+ mpw. It won't ruin them. Not even close.
ya..... wrote:
I ran all of my PRs on 10-15 miles per week after trying for years doing 60-100 miles per week. For some people, intensity is the only training stimulus that helps. For others, it's duration.
This is one of the great fallacies that circulate in the running world. There are core training doctrines that can't be circumvented. The fact that your genetics are so terrible that you can't handle moderate mileage doesn't negate the fact that long distance runners need long distance training. You can't make up for that with "quality."
Training.Sage wrote:
I guarantee that if you're a high schooler running 60+ MPW you're going to be racing to win most races. 60 mpw is maybe 60 minutes of running each day. Football, basketball, baseball all have longer practices.
60 MPW off a 6 day/week training cycle is 10 miles per day. There are very, very few high school athletes doing that off an hour training per day.
Let's give them 1:20 average daily running time for 60 MPW over 6 days. Tack on another 30 minutes for core and mobility work and you're already at 1:50. Add weights twice a week, allow for occasional longer track workouts, icing and rolling, etc. and you're already at close to an average 2:15/day.
There are many good reasons for a high schooler not to run 60 MPW. Consider that two of the three best male high school distance runners in the last 10 years both averaged closer to 40 MPW, with one supplementing running with soccer and the other putting in base work swimming and biking.
There's no magic mileage number. Different people find their sweet spot in different places.
Training.Sage wrote:
I guarantee that if you're a high schooler running 60+ MPW you're going to be racing to win most races. 60 mpw is maybe 60 minutes of running each day. Football, basketball, baseball all have longer practices.
OMG here is retard of the year....."60mpw is maybe 60 minutes of running each day"
True if you are running 5 minute miles. How many high schoolers run 5 min miles???? At practice no less!!!
Who can ya trust? wrote:
Arthur L wrote:Too much mileage = injuries not improvement.
I thought the new trend with some of these coaches is to "run through injuries?" 🤔
Only if the track coach is also the football coach. If a HS coach is telling kids to run through injuries they should be fired.