Brodey Hasty will be back!

nope not a conflict with the coach he has been training with the past 3 years. Brodey was never coached by the official high school coach in the first place and earlier year was forced to either run solely under the official high school coach's training or not be allowed to run hs meets

Oh, thats not what I heard but im not one to get information about it. What exactly happened. I just heard that his teammate had a problem and he stood up for his teammate until they both left.

Also, why hasn't he been racing until now? He could've ran unattached

misinformed wrote:

nope not a conflict with the coach he has been training with the past 3 years. Brodey was never coached by the official high school coach in the first place and earlier year was forced to either run solely under the official high school coach's training or not be allowed to run hs meets

So some coach got all full of himself and gave the kid the "my way or the highway" bit? What a BIG man!

345sfxdf wrote:

misinformed wrote:

nope not a conflict with the coach he has been training with the past 3 years. Brodey was never coached by the official high school coach in the first place and earlier year was forced to either run solely under the official high school coach's training or not be allowed to run hs meets

So some coach got all full of himself and gave the kid the "my way or the highway" bit? What a BIG man!

You mean run with the team coach if you want to wear the team jersey?

Yeah, I can see it go either way, but the kid is representing the school well and winning national championships. So it might not have been the best idea to mix it up his junior year track season if he let it go on for so long.

[quote]misinformed wrote:

nope not a conflict with the coach he has been training with the past 3 years. Brodey was never coached by the official high school coach

So was it an assistant coach? That would probably be fine. A lot of successful programs have 2 coaches that give different sorts of workouts for their guys or the guys that they coach in track season.

titan wrote:

So hello college coaches is this guy a problem child?. Welcome to your program.

Brodey's one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. To say he is a "problem child" shows you are woefully ignorant and uninformed. But, of course, I'm sure you, an anonymous random Letsrun poster, knows the entire situation and can judge guys you obviously know personally.....

southernfriedrealist wrote:

345sfxdf wrote:

So some coach got all full of himself and gave the kid the "my way or the highway" bit? What a BIG man!

You mean run with the team coach if you want to wear the team jersey?

Unless a coach believes he can do *better* than the private coach and/or believes the kid is suffering from *bad* coaching, he should let it go. Its a win-win-win for everyone. Now its a lose-lose-lose.

These are once in a decade or more talents at any school. Its not like Joe 4:40 is demanding to be coached by "his guy" (that could be squashed) but a generational talent should be given some slack and cooperation.

I do acknowledge that I do not know the specifics here and can imagine some scenarios where the kid might be told to pound sand. But they would be unusual scenarios.

I'd be interested in hearing more details.

Fellow Tennessee HS runner wrote:

titan wrote:

So hello college coaches is this guy a problem child?. Welcome to your program.

Brodey's one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. To say he is a "problem child" shows you are woefully ignorant and uninformed. But, of course, I'm sure you, an anonymous random Letsrun poster, knows the entire situation and can judge guys you obviously know personally.....

well said. I don't know him personally, but seeing interviews and how he handles himself gave me a great respect for him, and im glad you stood up for him. He seems like a great guy with a humble attitude and some great talent.

My son attends the same school and says this young man is the real deal. Nicest kid and very humble. Absolutely dedicated and works hard. Sadly the turn of events over coaching vs. private coaching became the issue. From what I understand the parents of the lesser and/or not as talented teammates took offense to someone personally training Brody and others. There are some rules against pay to play at the HS level and I get that. But this is the same school that has baseball coaches charging for summer teams and private lessons on the side. Volleyball players parents being hired to work at the HS so their kids can attend, even though they live outside the zoning. Nepotism is rampid as well with the Principals kid playing over other teammates and coaches kids playing over other teammates. It's a very sad environment none the less and yet nothing is being done. Clearly the school board knows and yet still does nothing. Brody is not alone. I personally feel that they should be honored to have him attend that HS and regardless of who trains him, he should be recognized for his accomplishments and not ridiculed for how he's coached or trained. In the end this young man will go off and be somebody. When asked where he went to HS I'm sure he'll have nothing but poor things to say about it. So keep working Brody. You're going places whereas the others are merely running in place. Karma's a bitch and will find its way to rear its ugly head.

Nobody should shed a tear for the demise of the old regime. Nice kids. Kids are kids everywhere. But that old regime, nah. I understand that the new coach comes with great credentials and could do a great job.

So Brodey's senior year running accomplishments will not be in a Brentwood singlet?

That's a real shame. Maybe other varsity teammates from NXN will also be off the team this fall, as well.

Last year's Regional scorers include two who would be seniors this year (Hasty and Thompson) and one junior (Heithcock). Thompson, 9th in the Regionals, would be a huge loss should he not be able to run on the team, like Hasty apparently:

1 Brodey HASTY 18 Brentwood XC Club 14:54.2

6 Taylor VROON 17 Brentwood XC Club 15:20.4

9 Scott THOMPSON 18 Brentwood XC Club 15:30.8

13 Jackson VROON 17 Brentwood XC Club 15:37.6

71 Rayaan BASHIR 17 Brentwood XC Club 16:18.3

91 Quinn HEITHCOCK19 Brentwood XC Club 16:28.4

235 Andrew CATE 17 Brentwood XC Club 17:49.4

probably justified by those arbitrary "unbendable morals" of those in power.

How long before a more relaxed racing circuit where HS kids such as Brodey can run for the sake of running rather that "represent" a school who does not want them?

It already exists. Run Hoka, FL/NXN, indoor season, June track. If you have the funds to travel, that’s a fine racing series.

Remember that someone has to put on all those events kids run in the fall and during outdoor, each of them attached to a school. Those schools (or the groups who run the races except for NSAF) don’t make much money and use a ton of volunteers. Coaches manage and coach those teams for pennies per hour, including the very best ones. Parents and booster groups raise funds for travel and for implements and facilities. I’ve yet to see a private coach who owns his own facility.

The High School season does a lot for kids when done well, stressing many of the values that make for successful adults: cooperation towards a group goal, persistence toward an individual goal, leadership, the value of work over an ext3nded period. If this were only about the running, there would be no real point to the school sponsoring this or any other sport.

Now, if you want it to be solely about the running, go for it. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from learning how to train or from paying a professional coach and competing on your own. You lose the team aspect, but that’s a choice you make.

I contend that Hasty's chosen path is far more than "solely about the running". Through his chosen continued involvement with the dismissed Brentwood HS coach Guy, Brodey Hasty likely reached a pinnacle he otherwise would not have reached, and that presented him with oodles of fantastic, positive opportunities which he embraced and excelled at. And learned from.

Just look at three of his big outdoor races this spring, after he opted to continue with Coach Guy instead of the replacement Brentwood coach (thus, disqualifying him from competing for Brentwood). Imagine the positive vibes which resulted, and the friendships he solidified, and the maturity he gained, by being in these races and running brilliantly:

Festival of Miles 4:06.81 -- 1st place, 1 June 2017

Music City Distance Carnival mile 4:01.75 -- 1st place, 10 June 2017

Brooks PR 2 Mile 8:45.95 -- 1st place, 17 June 2017.

In a past LetsRun thread entitled "RE: Brodey Hasty 4:01.75", poster "Sooooo" wrote:

"The administration told Brodey and Scott Thompson ( who just ran 4:08 for the full mile and 8:57) that they could either stay on the team and run with the new coach they hired or stay with Coach Guy and not be on the team. They chose to stay with Coach Guy. Since making that decision, both Hasty and Thompson have improved dramatically while the rest of the Brentwood guys who stayed have stagnated."

I can't vouch for the full accuracy of that last sentence, but clearly Coach Guy has given Hasty and Thompson opportunities to excel, and they have done so, and perhaps these two young runners have learned unique lessons otherwise not possible had they stayed with Brentwood and the replacement coach.

And, no doubt, the bit of heat that these two runners have dealt with -- and knowing they're the focus of attention on LetsRun!! -- gives them something else to heed and learn from, in a positive way, if they want.

There are golden opportunities for learning important lessons in a team setting, and golden opportunities derived from training with a personal coach and being unaffiliated with a team. Each route presents its unique possibilities. Any well-coached, well-advised, well-parented kid will gain from either. It takes balls to buck the system and go with your heart, as Hasty did, and I'd bet my bottom dollar that he hasn't squadored his chances to broaden his horizons as a result.

Good luck to Brodey Hasty, to Scott Thompson (also a rising senior), and to Brentwood's runners. I could really care less about the adults, anyway. It's the high school kids who deserve to have fun and to be enriched by the experiences, whether they are on a team or not.

All privately coached kids should be so fortunate. Well articulated.

THIS GUY GETS SIX HUNDRED BUCKS A MONTH? PER KID, AND TWO YEAT CONTRACT?

JESUS!!!

I coached for 15 years and never got more the $1000 for the entire season.

That being said , good for Brentwood for telling those kids if you don't want to train with our coach and our team , best of luck on your own.

$600 a month! To go from good to great? Small taters for the level of coaching some of these studs are getting. That's $150 per week. I pay a pro right now $50/hr for football coaching and we've been offered to attend 6 colleges. Don't think for a minute it's not worth it when the cost for school is so much higher. And as for getting out of the way? No comment as I don't know the coach but I would presume he's probably just wanting to reap what he's sewn and get some notoriety. Glad to see a HS coach or any Coach receive an ESPY the other night. There's not an athlete in the world that wouldn't say that they've gotten anywhere without a good coach!