Simple questions.
Of the top 100 times in the marathon in 1990, how many were by Kenyan men?
Of the top 100 times in the marathon in 1990, how many were by Kenyan women?
I'm curious also what you think the answers are for 2016.
I'll post the answers later.
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12 for men. 7 for women.
Pure guesses - I was 5 years old.
In 1990 - 12 for men, 4 for women
In 2016 - 68 for men, 72 for women
1990... I don't remember there being too many Kenyans in marathoning back then, except Tegla Laroupe (who probably came around a bit later than 1990). I'll say 10 men, 5 women.
2016... It's probably more like 60 men, 40 women? Are we counting guys from Dubai/UAE/Qatar or whatever who changed allegiance for cash?
Relatively few. That was at the beginning of the Kenyan elite racing boom, and before they really made inroads into the marathon rankings.
So I'll say 10 M, 4 W in the top 100.
I think there's more international competition among the women (or the Kenyan women aren't quite as deep), which is why I went with fewer.
We should also guess times. This is only times run that year, right?
1990: For men, I'm guessing 2:12?
1990: For women, I'm guessing 2:30. I have no idea, I just don't think there were that many elite women marathoners back then...
2017: For men, 2:07?
2017: For women, 2:25?
george oscar bluth wrote:
12 for men. 7 for women.
Pure guesses - I was 5 years old.
And for 2016 I'll guess 68 (men) and 62 (women).
pdesjf wrote:
I think there's more international competition among the women (or the Kenyan women aren't quite as deep), which is why I went with fewer.
We should also guess times. This is only times run that year, right?
1990: For men, I'm guessing 2:12?
1990: For women, I'm guessing 2:30. I have no idea, I just don't think there were that many elite women marathoners back then...
2017: For men, 2:07?
2017: For women, 2:25?
Wow. My times are way, way off. Wow. I guess I don't pay too much attention to the 10th place finishers at major marathons...
The Cloud wrote:
Relatively few. That was at the beginning of the Kenyan elite racing boom, and before they really made inroads into the marathon rankings.
So I'll say 10 M, 4 W in the top 100.
for 2016 it's probably more like 70 and 55 I bet.
Not googling, just off memory.
World Record back then must have been around 2:08
Can't think of who was good back then.
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I'll guess 25 but with way slower times. Japan, Italy, maybe Spain, and other African countries probably well represented
The answer.
1 Kenyan Man in the Top 100
ZERO Kenyan Women in the Top 200.
From 1988 to 1998 the Marathon world record was stagnant at 2:06:50.
In 2016, Kenyan men had 76 of the top 100 and the women had a much more modest 29.
The Kenyan women did not become a force until the last decade.
Lists are here from 1990:
http://www.arrs.net/MaraRank/ATM_Mara1990.htm
Women's list from last year:
http://www.all-athletics.com/en-us/top-lists?event=10229534&season=2016&eo4=1&eo3=1&gender=F
Men's list:
http://www.all-athletics.com/en-us/top-lists?event=10229634&season=2016&eo4=1&eo3=1
My guesses were 7 for the men and 0 for the women.
You have asked about times, so the correct number for the men is 2.
For most years of the 1980s, the number for men is little bit higher.
As for times:
In 1990, a 2:35 marathon put you in the top 100 in the world for women. 2:13 for men.
In 2016, it's 2:28 and 2:09 for women and men respectively.
pdesjf wrote:
As for times:
In 1990, a 2:35 marathon put you in the top 100 in the world for women. 2:13 for men.
In 2016, it's 2:28 and 2:09 for women and men respectively.
One day Galen will be in the top 100.
Year: Men/Women
1990: 18/7
2016: 57/46
illegitimate wrote:
Year: Men/Women
1990: 18/7
2016: 57/46
Not very close I see
is this obviously because of lack of government investment into athletics?
would a child in the 90s in Kenya or Ethiopia even considering running as a path for income?
what years were the turning point for east-african countries?
I wonder what running would be like today in the USA if it didn't exist in high school as track and XC and people were just left to discover it on their own
I think the world record for men was about 2:06:50 by the south American.