How Many Miles From Racing Flats?

two to three times as many

note: assuming you're training in it.

if just for racing and regular trainers for everything else, not much at all. Maybe 150-200. Maybe more.

Why would you get half as much mileage out of a pair of flats if you only raced in them. That doesn't make much sense. I could see maybe getting a few less because the racing might be harder pounding. But Hundreds less? Why would that be?

efficiency

the less shoe you can train in the less you need

So basicly Trackhead is saying that the flat may be worn out. But you won't notice the difference since your feet will be so much stronger. I'd still like to know when Trackhead will have any better results than before this whole experiment began.

hopefully August

What happens to worn out flats? I don't care if there's no support or anything in them, as long as it doesn't break apart on me somehow.

keep us posted. nothing against your theory, but if it doesn't help you run any faster what's the point?

trackhead wrote:

efficiency

Trackhead is right. When I first started training in the Puma H Streets, I got 250 miles out of them; biomechanics were sloppy. With my last pair, I got 560 out of them. It's a matter of efficiency.... learning to land "lighter" with less on your feet. I've adjusted to flats and am much more efficient and smoother than I ever was in trainers. The most I ever got out of a pair of trainers was ~400 miles.

I usually get about 500 miles out of a pair of training shoes, how much I should be able to get out of a pair of racing flats?

Depends on how well they wear. Some have outsoles that break down pretty quickly, some last longer. FWIW, I get about 500-700 on trainers (mostly closer to 500), and my Asics Tiger Paws are doing OK at 400.

I've had a pair of Asics Gel Magic Racers for 9 years, at 200 miles a year. They are money solid right now, looking for another 9.

trackhead wrote:

hopefully August

what race are you shooting for? distance? mpw? details!

I can think of two easily enough:

1. If you learn to run less efficiently, and it leads to less fatigue and/or less injury, that's generally a positive thing.

2. If you run twice as many miles in each pair of shoes, you spend half as much money on shoes, assuming same shoes, same volume.

jaguar1, why do you only get 560 miles from your h streets. they have no cushioning to begin with so it can't be a matter of the cushioning going dead. do they just fall apart?

cheetah1 wrote:

jaguar1, why do you only get 560 miles from your h streets. they have no cushioning to begin with so it can't be a matter of the cushioning going dead. do they just fall apart?

They smell extremely bad because I don't wear socks (which I know could probably be taken care of, but I have limited resources), and I started noticing my legs/feet felt "different." I could just feel a difference as compared to how they felt/how I felt when I bought them. I've progressively gotten more mileage on each subsequent pair, especially the new model, Puma H Street NM.

I've got a pair of H streets that I use for regular training, but as with my other shoes, the upper is gone long before anything else. I have wide forefeet and bust holes in the inner part of the upper. Ah well.

mongolian barbecue wrote:

I've had a pair of Asics Gel Magic Racers for 9 years, at 200 miles a year. They are money solid right now, looking for another 9.

I have a really hard time believing this one.

Doesn't the Magic Racer have a very light blown rubber or even EVA outsole? If I were running in that they'd have worn all the way through the midsole by now, and the ball of my foot would be scraping the ground.

I am wearing the gel magic racers into the ground too. I have had them for a few years. Which ones do you have, the green ones?

To keep you healthy, so ideally, you can train more intensely/keep up the mileage so you're able to get faster.