Trans runner competes against girls

Oinker wrote:

Shes an inspiration. Good for her. No problem for being yourself. You are in prison if you judge others

I'm a Christian-Conservative... just being myself. Thanks for not judging.

a;oaghl;fklads wrote:

"I would generally agree that its a condition that's present at birth, and not a conscious choice. That being said its still not fair for a trans or "someone that self identifies as trans", be allowed to race as a female, in a female race. Now whether thats un-PC or not I could not care. Perhaps utilizing a certain set of strict criteria, maybe, IE T levels, presence or absence of external genitalia, etc might be in order, like occurred with CS previously but were then rescinded. I certainly don't have or know the answer, I just know that its not fair to the women, born as women that are in the same race as a trans, born male and with the bulk of the genetic advantages that come with that.

Well, I think that females should always be allowed to compete with males if they so choose. However, I agree with you that male to female transgender athletes should not be allowed to compete until they have been on hormones and androgen blockers for a specified period of time and their hormone levels are in the normal female range. I was more addressing the angry mob who wants to use this one news story in order to yell and scream about how much "trannies" are ruining society.[/quote]

I don't think there's enough of them out there to ruin anything.

In 2002 the idea was so absurd they made a movie about it, now he would be celebrated as "brave".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247444/

zohan wrote:

In 2002 the idea was so absurd they made a movie about it, now he would be celebrated as "brave".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247444/

With the wider acceptance, more are coming out of the "closet" so to speak. I personally have no problem with it and could really care less, however when biological males with their inherent advantages begin competing as women, most if not all women have no chance of winning, be it track, weightlifting, cycling or any other sport for that matter. Assuming of course that said biological male is skilled in their specific sport to begin with. Thats blatantly unfair in my view. I'd be curious as to how Mr/Ms Jenner feels about it.

With the wider acceptance, more are coming out of the "closet" so to speak. I personally have no problem with it and could really care less, however when biological males with their inherent advantages begin competing as women, most if not all women have no chance of winning, be it track, weightlifting, cycling or any other sport for that matter. Assuming of course that said biological male is skilled in their specific sport to begin with. Thats blatantly unfair in my view. I'd be curious as to how Mr/Ms Jenner feels about it.[/quote]

I don't personally know any trans people who think that male to females should compete against women prior to having medically transitioned. Most that I know support the IOC's original guidelines (2 years hormones, estrogen/testosterone levels in the female range etc.) I think the NCAA has similar guidelines. I don't see why this particular student can't train with the girls team, be treated as a girl socially and simply compete in the boys category. Perhaps there needs to be an open category that trans and intersex people can compete in along with males and a female category for biological females.

All this "competition" stuff

Can't everybody get a trophy for giving their best. Why can't all women run together just for fun.

What a load of crap. Connecticut, Land of the Wierdos.

Many people are going to argue that a person who has certain hormones should play for a certain team. While I understand this logic, it is based on the idea that transgender people are somehow "other," and that they need to be identified. The truth is, people who say they have never met a transgender person probably have, but without realizing it because it isn't always or even usually obvious.

Your identity is not based on the chemicals and hormones in your body; your identity is who you are by your own determination. If we intend to separate students based on their gender, we have to respect what their gender is, not what society's expectations of gender suggest about that student.

^^^^^Freakin retard. The writer must be a male who failed competing against other males himself.

I still don't see her performance listed on Dyestat.

Why?

Uuhhhuhu wrote:

I still don't see her performance listed on Dyestat.

Why?

Could be fake news ultimately in order to test the waters, something a liberal study group might put together to see how far the boundaries can be pushed.

They failed miserably in this case given the widespread resentment.

Screams fraud all day long.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/andraya-hasnt-taken-any-medical-steps-at-all-towards-transitioning-from-male-to-female-hes-100-per-cent-bloke/news-story/9cf61229fe4c54d420a5660c3daf7d36