I can run 1:58 and 4:30 but when it comes to breaking 10 I cannot do it. I have tried many times and I am stumped at 10:10. That was my sophmore season, I also run around 25 miles a week. I am going into junior year and clocked 2:34 for 1k indoors but I was hurt. Will I be able to break 10 outdoors this year?
Yes, run a little more mileage and more tempos.
Your PRs suggest relatively weak endurance, which isn't unusual for newer runners in HS. Like the previous poster said, increasing your weakly mileage and improving your tempo run are important - 25 mpw is on the low side. And increase your long run distance, and keep doing long repeats with short rests.
Your mile time suggests you should have no problem breaking 10:00 by the end of outdoor. Keep taking the first lap out in 75 and the first mile out in 5:00. Good luck!
Raise your milage in the offseason. Aim to double it by next year
Thats odd, I ran 8:56 for 2 miles with a 4:33 mile PR.
My race times and training were similar to yours. As a HS soph I ran 2:03/4:31/10:22.
Your 1:58 and 4:30 show the talent is there. All you are missing is endurance.
Summer before junior year I bumped up my mileage to 45-55 mpw. This included a weekly long run of 80-90 minutes. In the beginning I couldn't run this long without resting so I would run 40-45 minutes, take an hour break, and run another 40-45 minutes. Over the course of the summer I cut down the rest period until I didn't need it.
Fall of my junior year I ran 2 minutes faster for 5k and finished top-3 at state XC meet. Junior year track I ran 4:12 and 9:30. The 9:30 was a few hours after running 4:12, I never ran 3200 fresh that season.
trackislife12 wrote:.... I also run around 25 miles a week.....
Hmmm what could be done?... what could possibly be the issue here?
Just to follow up, I ran faster as a HS senior. State champion, one of the top HS runners in the country. I was All-American on a D1 T&F championship team, Olympic Trials qualifier, yada yada.
You have talent. 25mpw is sh*t for a HS distance runner. You gotta get up to 40-55mpw. The time commitment to run 40-55 mpw is nothing compared to the time a HS basketball or football player puts in. If you want to be a success at running then put the time in and run more. That's the secret.
HS runners with talent should run 50-55 out of season, run 40-45 in season. Taper down to 20-25 for district/regionals and state.
I've seen so many talented HS runners who squandered their talent. You can choose to be stupid and lazy in your training, or you can choose to make the most of your talent. Or you can play video games. it's up to you.
What are your priorities? That's the question!Would you rather be a fast 800m guy or distance guy? A college coach will see more potential in you if you focus on the shorter mileage stuff. Plus, you'll probably overtrain before your last year of high school running if you listen to everyone here and double your mileage. I ran 25 mpw in h.s. too and ran an open 49.7 400m, 1:55.6 800m, 4:32 1600m and 16:20 Xc. Best 2mile was 10:23 no tempos, no long runs, no intervals over 1200mIn college ran 4:12 mile and 15:20 5k soph year then told my coach I wanted less miles, more speed and ran 1:50 senior year I remember doing 4 x 2-mile my second year of college in 10 min and on the last one I ran the last 800m hard and hit 9:47. I told my coach I wanted to break 10 when he told me I went to fast. To this day, that's my pb In college and after the 2mile is a meaningless distance. I'm most proud of being able to run under 50 for 400 and my 1:50 than anything else, even a 2:28 marathon Run fast.
trackislife12 wrote:
I can run 1:58 and 4:30 but when it comes to breaking 10 I cannot do it. I have tried many times and I am stumped at 10:10. That was my sophmore season, I also run around 25 miles a week. I am going into junior year and clocked 2:34 for 1k indoors but I was hurt. Will I be able to break 10 outdoors this year?
Not every HS runner is like the OP. Let me address HS runners with less talent. If you are inspired to run 80-100 mpw to become HS state champion or a top HS runner then absolutely go for it. This is your opportunity to shine athletically. In college your primary focus will academics. Let's be honest, not every runner is destined for D1 success or the Olympics. Go for it in HS. Be a leader and inspiration for your HS team.
Track ain't life kiddo wrote:
What are your priorities? That's the question!
Would you rather be a fast 800m guy or distance guy? A college coach will see more potential in you if you focus on the shorter mileage stuff. Plus, you'll probably overtrain before your last year of high school running if you listen to everyone here and double your mileage.
I ran 25 mpw in h.s. too and ran an open 49.7 400m, 1:55.6 800m, 4:32 1600m and 16:20 Xc. Best 2mile was 10:23 no tempos, no long runs, no intervals over 1200m
In college ran 4:12 mile and 15:20 5k soph year then told my coach I wanted less miles, more speed and ran 1:50 senior year
I remember doing 4 x 2-mile my second year of college in 10 min and on the last one I ran the last 800m hard and hit 9:47. I told my coach I wanted to break 10 when he told me I went to fast. To this day, that's my pb
In college and after the 2mile is a meaningless distance. I'm most proud of being able to run under 50 for 400 and my 1:50 than anything else, even a 2:28 marathon
Run fast.
trackislife12 wrote:I can run 1:58 and 4:30 but when it comes to breaking 10 I cannot do it. I have tried many times and I am stumped at 10:10. That was my sophmore season, I also run around 25 miles a week. I am going into junior year and clocked 2:34 for 1k indoors but I was hurt. Will I be able to break 10 outdoors this year?
If this guy was a D1 runner he was 2nd-rate. Take what he says with a grain of salt. If you want to settle on mediocrity then here is your example.
I'd guess most of your fitness or training is speed oriented. Here are times for a 4:30/10:00 person
100 0:11.77
200 0:23.66
400 0:52.97
800 1:59.42
1000 2:35.17
1500 4:08.90
1-mile 4:30.0
3000 9:13.66
2-mile 10:00.0
5000 16:32.24
10000 36:15.39
half-mara 83:49.93
marathon 181:29.97
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