What does everyone think? The times seemed to faster than usual, yes I know it used to be 12K, but they seemed like pretty fast XC 10K times. The boys junior race was really what impressed me. 22:40 at almost 4,000 feet elevation in close to 80 degree temperature was very impressive. Would Farah have won the junior race?
Nope. Farah is finished as a champion. Allah has said so.
Farah is way over rated. Even at the top of his form (when?) he was never, a good cross country runner like Bekele, Tergat, Ngugi etc. Even his performances at Scotland were just mediocre.
I hope a new champion is crowned in the 10 this year. Someone who takes it to Farah...yet the same as usual will probably happen. There will be a lot of talk about how the Kenyans will use team tactics, but no one will sacrifice themselves.
Run it like a World Cross Country, fastest pace from start to finish and no letup ever.
Yes you are right! for the past 6 to 7 years track distance running (psychologically) has gone backwards. Their approach to racing is like they were in the 1960's (wait, sit and then kick, let somebody else do the work) Not like the eras between late 1980's all the way to 2008 where you were not just tactical but you were willing to go all out and bury everyone (kamikaze style) but they were fit, very fit. Take a look at Bekele, Haile, Tergat, Komen, etc, this people would put everything on the line, no matter what, either die winning or loose but trying hard all the way. if the other guy would eventually win, he had to pay a big prize for it. Now, you just wait, hang in there, let somebody else do the work and with 1200 meters to go then you start to race (Farah) Take a look at Haile's races, Bekele's or even Lasse Viren this people would give you fight till the end from starting from the gun.
misfit62 wrote:
Yes you are right! for the past 6 to 7 years track distance running (psychologically) has gone backwards. Their approach to racing is like they were in the 1960's (wait, sit and then kick, let somebody else do the work) Not like the eras between late 1980's all the way to 2008 where you were not just tactical but you were willing to go all out and bury everyone (kamikaze style) but they were fit, very fit. Take a look at Bekele, Haile, Tergat, Komen, etc, this people would put everything on the line, no matter what, either die winning or loose but trying hard all the way. if the other guy would eventually win, he had to pay a big prize for it. Now, you just wait, hang in there, let somebody else do the work and with 1200 meters to go then you start to race (Farah) Take a look at Haile's races, Bekele's or even Lasse Viren this people would give you fight till the end from starting from the gun.
Yeah exactly, what distance running needs is more drugs.
Not Drugs but COJONES!!!
No, Jeilan would have out kicked him at the last quarter mile relegating him to 9th place probably. That's my guess.
Rockstar Games wrote:
No, Jeilan would have out kicked him at the last quarter mile relegating him to 9th place probably. That's my guess.
LOL POD
The course was slightly less than 10k (2k laps but the finish section made the last lap a bit shorter). Still fast given the turns and conditions. Mo would have got a medal, but Kamwo is hard to beat when he's fit.
I'm not joking when I ask this, but does think he would have lost the junior 8K race? 22:40 is moving, especially considering those conditions and altitude.
Year of change wrote:
I hope a new champion is crowned in the 10 this year. Someone who takes it to Farah...yet the same as usual will probably happen. There will be a lot of talk about how the Kenyans will use team tactics, but no one will sacrifice themselves.
The same thing doesn't happen.
Farah just wins.
Last year's 10k was 27:05, which was the second fastest Olympic 10k ever and just off the Olympic record of 27:01. The fact of the matter is, on any given day, if anyone in the race were to run 26:30, it would be Mo.... he's the best in a fast or slow race.
Junior champ? wrote:
I'm not joking when I ask this, but does think he would have lost the junior 8K race? 22:40 is moving, especially considering those conditions and altitude.
Interestingly, 22:40 is also the spread of ages of the African athletes in that race.
Year of change wrote:
I hope a new champion is crowned in the 10 this year. Someone who takes it to Farah...yet the same as usual will probably happen. There will be a lot of talk about how the Kenyans will use team tactics, but no one will sacrifice themselves.
Why do people always talk about team tactics and sacrificing as if that's what had to happen.
Nobody has to sacrifice anything.
Kamworor and Barsoton, hard from the gun. Farrah can't hang.
actual skills wrote:
Year of change wrote:I hope a new champion is crowned in the 10 this year. Someone who takes it to Farah...yet the same as usual will probably happen. There will be a lot of talk about how the Kenyans will use team tactics, but no one will sacrifice themselves.
Why do people always talk about team tactics and sacrificing as if that's what had to happen.
Nobody has to sacrifice anything.
Kamworor and Barsoton, hard from the gun. Farrah can't hang.
Lol Kamworor isn't that great at 10k
Interestingly, 22:40 is also the spread of ages of the African athletes in that race.[/quote]
POTD
actual skills wrote:
Year of change wrote:I hope a new champion is crowned in the 10 this year. Someone who takes it to Farah...yet the same as usual will probably happen. There will be a lot of talk about how the Kenyans will use team tactics, but no one will sacrifice themselves.
Why do people always talk about team tactics and sacrificing as if that's what had to happen.
Nobody has to sacrifice anything.
Kamworor and Barsoton, hard from the gun. Farrah can't hang.
Du mb mo ther fu ckers
when will u guys going 2 learn?
2 Mo gold in the bag 4 Mo this summer #onemomile #doublegold
misfit62 wrote:
Yes you are right! for the past 6 to 7 years track distance running (psychologically) has gone backwards. Their approach to racing is like they were in the 1960's (wait, sit and then kick, let somebody else do the work) Not like the eras between late 1980's all the way to 2008 where you were not just tactical but you were willing to go all out and bury everyone (kamikaze style) but they were fit, very fit. Take a look at Bekele, Haile, Tergat, Komen, etc, this people would put everything on the line, no matter what, either die winning or loose but trying hard all the way. if the other guy would eventually win, he had to pay a big prize for it. Now, you just wait, hang in there, let somebody else do the work and with 1200 meters to go then you start to race (Farah) Take a look at Haile's races, Bekele's or even Lasse Viren this people would give you fight till the end from starting from the gun.
This is literally the opposite of reality. Bekele, Haile, Tergat and Konzen were all about the sit and kick strategy. The sit and kick era began with Geb. The guys that would run hard from the gun (like Prefontaine) couldn't win in this era... they'd get eaten alive. Actually Prefontaine got eaten alive by Viren because his hard from the gun strategy was foolish.
Run007xx wrote:
Actually Prefontaine got eaten alive by Viren because his hard from the gun strategy was foolish.
I'm pretty sure Pre did not run hard from the gun that day....