So recently there is a lot of talk about older runners having heart attacks. This is not uncommon. Hard training after 40 has a negative impact on the body and actually increases risk of many inflammatory related diseases including micro years and scarring of heart tissue. Marathon training in particular is extremely stressful in the body.
I'm just saying to take it easy as you age. Exercise is good but too much can be a bad thing later in life.
over 50 and not afraid to die.
being dead is better than living in North America anyway.
Great
From the article:
MRI scans of veteran marathon runners show a threefold increased incidence of scarring in the heart compared with sedentary controls. Long-term excessive exercise may also accelerate ageing in the heart.
The best-selling book Born to Run, published in 2009, glamorises ultra-marathon running. It tells the story of American Micah True, who decided to live and run with the Tarahumara Indians in Mexico, routinely running 25 to 100 miles per day. In March 2013 he dropped dead at the age of 58 on a 12-mile training run.
During an autopsy, his heart was found to be enlarged and thickened with inflammatory infiltrate, and the coronary arteries had mild coronary arteriosclerosis. This type of cardiac pathology has been observed in other veteran extreme-endurance athletes.
Not news. First, go back and read the article. It says that health benefits plateau, not that health risks increase. It doesn't talk about health risks of intense training until the second half of the article, which talks about marathon and ultra-marathon training - and cites James O'Keefe, a monomaniac who has been harping on this point with bad science for years. Do a little googling, you'll find the answer.
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So recently there is a lot of talk about older runners having heart attacks. This is not uncommon. Hard training after 40 has a negative impact on the body and actually increases risk of many inflammatory related diseases including micro years and scarring of heart tissue. Marathon training in particular is extremely stressful in the body.
I'm just saying to take it easy as you age. Exercise is good but too much can be a bad thing later in life.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/science/not-enough-running-and-too-much-is-bad-for-your-health-1.2099857%3Fmode%3Damp
Most are recovering drunks / druggies .
They gotta die some way .
If I read everything on how it's a risk to run in general or run marathons in my age group then I might as well not live...🙄
If you enjoy what you're doing then no harm done. Life is too short. Do what makes you happy. I rather die on the trail knowing that's I what loved to do vs wishing I could have...😊
I'm wondering when the wheels come off. Am pushing 40 and set a PR last year. Undoubtedly I'm in better shape now than when I set that PR. Lighter, leaner, and faster than when I was 30.
Ed Whitlock ran 2:31 at 48.
ha ha no wrote:
Not news. First, go back and read the article. It says that health benefits plateau, not that health risks increase. It doesn't talk about health risks of intense training until the second half of the article, which talks about marathon and ultra-marathon training - and cites James O'Keefe, a monomaniac who has been harping on this point with bad science for years. Do a little googling, you'll find the answer.
Monomaniac is being kind. The guy is either downright dishonest or incompetent or both.
There was a study a few years back that showed that the health benefits of running could be well accounted for by standard risk factors like cholesterol level, BP, etc. James O'Keefe tried to use this as evidence that running was bad for you since once normalized for all of those risk factors, being a runner correlated with poor outcomes. But this is a very misleading use of statistics. I can't imagine how it got published. What happens is that running makes you healthier by lowering cholesterol, bp, etc so in correcting for those factors one is removing all of the known ways running improves health. So basically if you have two patients with the same lab results but find out one has to run more to stay fit, the it says that person is less healthy. But that in no way suggests that runner didn't get a health benefit from his training. On the contrary, he wouldn't have had the same cholesterol as the other guy if he hadn't.
Ive found the more I age, the more health risks there are.
This cites the same poorly designed study from 2013. How many times will this be recycled over and over again?
To quote a few famous lines:
"If you tell a lie often enough, sooner or later everyone will believe it".
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead". The great philosopher, Jimmy Buffet
ha ha no wrote:
Not news. First, go back and read the article. It says that health benefits plateau, not that health risks increase. It doesn't talk about health risks of intense training until the second half of the article, which talks about marathon and ultra-marathon training - and cites James O'Keefe, a monomaniac who has been harping on this point with bad science for years. Do a little googling, you'll find the answer.
I shared a house many years back with Jim O'Keefe and several other runners. He was a great guy. He is now very successful as a doctor and in many other ways, I'm sure.
He could well have been a very successful runner as well, but he never did the miles needed.
We choose what we seek and he probably chose a better life path than me, but I'll bet that I can still crush him on the roads. As to who will live longer, we'll have to wait and see :-)
ha ha no wrote:
Not news. First, go back and read the article. It says that health benefits plateau, not that health risks increase. It doesn't talk about health risks of intense training until the second half of the article, which talks about marathon and ultra-marathon training - and cites James O'Keefe, a monomaniac who has been harping on this point with bad science for years. Do a little googling, you'll find the answer.
Spot on
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Ed Whitlock ran 2:31 at 48.
that's about the same tine sarah hall just ran in tokyo. didnt know she was only as good as a 50 year old
"If you enjoy what you're doing then no harm done. Life is too short. Do what makes you happy. I rather die on the trail knowing that's I what loved to do vs wishing I could have..."
This is exactly what I say to my running buddy. I hope they find me on a trail somewhere deep in the woods. Pure nirvana.
Dave Horton: quadruple bypass
I really don't know WTF I'm talking about. I just google stuff and post it here with no valued opinion behind it.
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Take it easy as you prepare for immortality.