I am confused. Went on official track visit for D1 mid level school. Was told I am a top pick but tbey dont have scholarship money now for hurdlers amd sprinters. Told me ro come on as a walk on and could possibly get schlarsbjp money in Spring if something opens up or while I am ruuning at college and my times are good. Has anyone had this happen to them?
The coach is limited in scholarships. My guess is he thinks someone will quit or transfer or lose the scholarship.
If the program wants you, they should work with you on a financial aid package. Kevin Sullivan (U of Michigan coach) addressed this in an interview on the Smartercoaching podcast a few episodes ago.
What are your times/events?
300m hurdles I placed 3rd in state of Maryland 44.3 and my times this indoor door 300m 40.94.
Yes that is true but she is faster then girls on todter mow and is put of state and 90% of team is instate.
My best guess is that they are saving their scholarship money for someone who can spell....
sorry let me repost. She is running D1 times now and is faster than most girls on team now. Most are instate kids and we arent so think its unfair. They know she is a top runner thats why we did official visit and they have kept in touch with her.
sprinter2017 wrote:
I am confused. Went on official track visit for D1 mid level school. Was told I am a top pick but tbey dont have scholarship money now for hurdlers amd sprinters. Told me ro come on as a walk on and could possibly get schlarsbjp money in Spring if something opens up or while I am ruuning at college and my times are good. Has anyone had this happen to them?
Happens all the time. Most schools are limited on scholarship money. While I would have said this upfront before a visit no good coach is just going to not recruit for a year. To good coaches, walkon and scholarship kids really are treated the same. When the money is available it's passed on appropriately. If you like the school, coach, and city talk about what other scholarships are available. If attending without athletic aid breaks the bank simply tell the coach and explore other opportunities.
sprinter2017 wrote:
I am confused. Went on official track visit for D1 mid level school. Was told I am a top pick but tbey dont have scholarship money now for hurdlers amd sprinters. Told me ro come on as a walk on and could possibly get schlarsbjp money in Spring if something opens up or while I am ruuning at college and my times are good. Has anyone had this happen to them?
Are you looking at UMBC? Great track program, especially for instate talent. It's pretty common for athletes to start off without scholarship, but gain it if performances at championship races contribute points.
Your kick at the regionals 4x4 was insane. You caught Cori from like 10 meters behind.
no scholarship, no commitment
sprinter2017 wrote:
I am confused. Went on official track visit for D1 mid level school. Was told I am a top pick but tbey dont have scholarship money now for hurdlers amd sprinters. Told me ro come on as a walk on and could possibly get schlarsbjp money in Spring if something opens up or while I am ruuning at college and my times are good. Has anyone had this happen to them?
Do you know your major or career field?
Always the best thing to look is a strong adult mentor, both academically and athletically. and enthusiastic mentors who believe in you.
no money in track.
you're being sold a sells pitch. My guess is that you probably won't be given a scholarship. Sure you could win conference or make it to ncaa's or something and that might change, but lets say you're just in the top quarter in your event (good). Prob won't happen. College coaches have to get the best athletes with limited scholarships. One way some do this is by making most everyone think they're on the cusp of earning a scholarship.
kvothe wrote:
you're being sold a sells pitch. My guess is that you probably won't be given a scholarship. Sure you could win conference or make it to ncaa's or something and that might change, but lets say you're just in the top quarter in your event (good). Prob won't happen. College coaches have to get the best athletes with limited scholarships. One way some do this is by making most everyone think they're on the cusp of earning a scholarship.
What I was trying to say is that a lot of coaches won't give an athlete a scholarship for just being good, especially when he's already on the team, but a huge gap making you a potential ncaa qualifier could cause the coach to change his mind and offer you money, but the chances are that you won't get to that level because most athletes don't get to that level even if they're really good, like making all conference.
kvothe wrote:
you're being sold a sells pitch. My guess is that you probably won't be given a scholarship. Sure you could win conference or make it to ncaa's or something and that might change, but lets say you're just in the top quarter in your event (good). Prob won't happen. College coaches have to get the best athletes with limited scholarships. One way some do this is by making most everyone think they're on the cusp of earning a scholarship.
Absolutely this. I ran D1 big school. Once your toes touch campus, the coach's incentive to put you on scholarship is zero. Everybody knows transferring is a pain. If there's no scholarship in front of you on day 1, then there is no scholarship ever. It's a recruiting tactic
mistake #1 is not controlling the recruiting process yourself. If a scholarship is important, if the cost to your family is important, why on earth would you take an official visit without knowing this information in advance?
You are in control, not the college coaches. You have a list of what you want. If you want to go somewhere warm, then don't take official visits to cold places. If you want/need a certain level of scholarship, don't take an official visit until the school has committed that to you in a written document.
It doesn't matter if you are faster than the girls on the team, it matters if you are faster than the girls in the conference, regional and national level, that is one criteria for coaches giving scholarships.
Is the program well rounded or centered around a certain discipline? If it is a distance school, then they may just not want to give money to sprinters.
And if you fall for the "you can earn a scholarship later" gag, then don't hold your breath. Once you have enrolled in school and started taking classes, the power shifts to the university/coach.
Right now YOU have what they want. Your talent, so get a plan together to get what you want.
This.
Jay_bird wrote:
kvothe wrote:you're being sold a sells pitch. My guess is that you probably won't be given a scholarship. Sure you could win conference or make it to ncaa's or something and that might change, but lets say you're just in the top quarter in your event (good). Prob won't happen. College coaches have to get the best athletes with limited scholarships. One way some do this is by making most everyone think they're on the cusp of earning a scholarship.
Absolutely this. I ran D1 big school. Once your toes touch campus, the coach's incentive to put you on scholarship is zero. Everybody knows transferring is a pain. If there's no scholarship in front of you on day 1, then there is no scholarship ever. It's a recruiting tactic
sprinter2017 wrote:
sorry let me repost. She is running D1 times now and is faster than most girls on team now. Most are instate kids and we arent so think its unfair. They know she is a top runner thats why we did official visit and they have kept in touch with her.
So if you went on an official visit that means she is a Senior. Its late February, most top recruits signed in early November. You are really late to the game if you are looking for any scholarship money. A coach probably doesn't have any money now unless someone quits unexpectedly, but coaches will continue to recruit walk ons.
Now do the math, most mid level D1 programs have 40-45 athletes on their women's team. If they are fully funded they have 18 scholarships. A handful of top performers may be on full rides, that doesn't leave much for the rest of the team.
Comparing her times to those currently on the team is pointless. Those other runners might be walk-ons with no scholarship money. If she can place high at their conference championship, then the coach might be interested in finding her some $, so compare her to their conference championship results on tfrrs.
One last thing, going from 300 hurdles in HS to 400 hurdles in college is sometime hard for coaches to project. If her best 400 sprint time is a 58, its hard to expect her to run a sub 60 in the 400 hurdles. So a coach evaluating her would look much more closely at her 400m time than any 300 time. Most female 300m hurdlers getting significant money at D1 schools have posted 43's and below during their Junior year of HS.
Don't go somewhere expecting a future scholarship based on performance. There are plenty of schools with money for talented runners right now.