The world marathon challenge is underway and they fly everywhere by charter jet.
On our weekly call we started wondering what that costs. It can't be cheap.
Aviation guys- what sort of plane is required for this and how much would it cost?
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
I would say 7.5-15k per hour, flying time.
That is for bored rich people that can't run fast or they are a "has been. "
wejo wrote:
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
Explain this?
wejo wrote:
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
You know me wrote:
Explain this?
32 x $38,600 = $1.235 Million.
Why not round up to 1.24 million for Wejo Wee Mathâ„¢???
What a joke.
I read an article by a guy who did this. It sounded awful. Basically, you fly to some potentially beautiful places, get bussed from the airport to the marathon start, run the marathon, get on the bus and go back to the plane.
To top it off, they got socked in by severe weather on the Antarctica leg and had to spend several days in NoWhereVille on the extreme southern tip of South America.
On my personal bucket list, the World Marathon Challenge would come in somewhere below getting waterboarded.
A 757 is about $12k an hour. They have over 30 competitors and probably an equal amount of supporters and crew. That means the group is too big for a typical corporate charter like a Gulfstream. And most of the legs on the route are too long for a smaller Airbus or Embraer. The budget buster is probably the plane to Antarctica. They have to fly on a special plane that can land on ice and that has all sorts of special de-icing systems and wind reinforcements.
fisky wrote:
On my personal bucket list, the World Marathon Challenge would come in somewhere below getting waterboarded.
I kind of want to try getting waterboarded, just to try it out.
I don't want to do the marathon challenge though, so it's below waterboarding on my list as well.
wejo wrote:
The world marathon challenge is underway and they fly everywhere by charter jet.
On our weekly call we started wondering what that costs. It can't be cheap.
Aviation guys- what sort of plane is required for this and how much would it cost?
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
Do all athletes pay or are the likes of Hall and Wardian comped?
fisky wrote:
I read an article by a guy who did this. It sounded awful. Basically, you fly to some potentially beautiful places, get bussed from the airport to the marathon start, run the marathon, get on the bus and go back to the plane.
To top it off, they got socked in by severe weather on the Antarctica leg and had to spend several days in NoWhereVille on the extreme southern tip of South America.
On my personal bucket list, the World Marathon Challenge would come in somewhere below getting waterboarded.
A coworker of mine is friends with the lady who is doing this year (I think it's the lady who survived brain cancer). When she told me all about I had the same reaction as you "Why? It doesn't seem like you would get to really see any of the continents so what is the point?" Then it occurred to me that if you can finance this stupid concoction, you probably have well enough capital to get back to the continents at some point in the future.
Precious Roy wrote:
A 757 is about $12k an hour. They have over 30 competitors and probably an equal amount of supporters and crew. That means the group is too big for a typical corporate charter like a Gulfstream. And most of the legs on the route are too long for a smaller Airbus or Embraer. The budget buster is probably the plane to Antarctica. They have to fly on a special plane that can land on ice and that has all sorts of special de-icing systems and wind reinforcements.
That's 12K per hour flying? Do you pay for the downtime? I hadn't thought about this but what if we Charter a jumbo jet to fly to world XC in Uganda leave from somewhere in the east coast in the US but leave it in Uganda for say three days then fly back? What if it sat there for a week?
wejo wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:A 757 is about $12k an hour. They have over 30 competitors and probably an equal amount of supporters and crew. That means the group is too big for a typical corporate charter like a Gulfstream. And most of the legs on the route are too long for a smaller Airbus or Embraer. The budget buster is probably the plane to Antarctica. They have to fly on a special plane that can land on ice and that has all sorts of special de-icing systems and wind reinforcements.
That's 12K per hour flying? Do you pay for the downtime? I hadn't thought about this but what if we Charter a jumbo jet to fly to world XC in Uganda leave from somewhere in the east coast in the US but leave it in Uganda for say three days then fly back? What if it sat there for a week?
10/10
Iron Maiden uses a 747 for touring. It cannot be so expensive outside of actual flying time. I know they're popular and all, but not so popular they could pay 12k/hr even for downtime and not have it be an issue.
wejo wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:A 757 is about $12k an hour. They have over 30 competitors and probably an equal amount of supporters and crew. That means the group is too big for a typical corporate charter like a Gulfstream. And most of the legs on the route are too long for a smaller Airbus or Embraer. The budget buster is probably the plane to Antarctica. They have to fly on a special plane that can land on ice and that has all sorts of special de-icing systems and wind reinforcements.
That's 12K per hour flying? Do you pay for the downtime? I hadn't thought about this but what if we Charter a jumbo jet to fly to world XC in Uganda leave from somewhere in the east coast in the US but leave it in Uganda for say three days then fly back? What if it sat there for a week?
So, airplane time is all negotiable. Generally the quoted rate is the rate for tach time or hobbs time.
If you are getting a generic quote than it is not very accurate. There are, of course, costs involved with having an airplane sitting on the ground. And a custom quote will take that into account. Of course the longer it sits there, the more the cost/hour is going to be. That is also totally dependent on the model of aircraft, the owner, and what other customers/profit potential it might have during that time. Often there are minimums (nobody is going to rent you an airplane to fly a couple hours, have it sit on the tarmac for a couple days, then fly back at a generic rate). that would probably affect you flying to Uganda.
In this particular case, there is really not that much downtime. They are flying every day and for quite a few hours.
I believe that the Antarctic plane was a separate company, probably a specialist carrier for that climate.
wejo wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:A 757 is about $12k an hour. They have over 30 competitors and probably an equal amount of supporters and crew. That means the group is too big for a typical corporate charter like a Gulfstream. And most of the legs on the route are too long for a smaller Airbus or Embraer. The budget buster is probably the plane to Antarctica. They have to fly on a special plane that can land on ice and that has all sorts of special de-icing systems and wind reinforcements.
That's 12K per hour flying? Do you pay for the downtime? I hadn't thought about this but what if we Charter a jumbo jet to fly to world XC in Uganda leave from somewhere in the east coast in the US but leave it in Uganda for say three days then fly back? What if it sat there for a week?
You can do this for $48,900 on a small prop plane or $401,390 for a large airliner
http://www.privatefly.com/private-jet-charter/estimate-prices.html?flightSearch=3359083fisky wrote:
I read an article by a guy who did this. It sounded awful. Basically, you fly to some potentially beautiful places, get bussed from the airport to the marathon start, run the marathon, get on the bus and go back to the plane. .
^This^. If you want to do this it's for the challenge, not the scenery. I've travelled the world to compete (not T&F, but another Olympic sport), and it's rather sad in retrospect to realise all the places I've been, and how little I've gotten to see. Aeroplanes, airports, buses, hotels, competition venues. They all seem the same after a while. I fly 12 hours away and it doesn't feel that exciting anymore. When you travel to compete, you must spend most the pre-competition time doing last minute preparations and resting... and when you are finished you are exhausted, and either need to pack for the next city, or home. Staying will cost you both $$$ and training time in most circumstances.
So, in summary. I think when you travel afar to compete, it's both a wonderful opportunity and a slight tragedy that you don't get to fully experience the places you go. This challange just amplifies these experiences. That being said, I'd do it if given the chance.
How about the REAL bucket list: get waterboarded with a bucket of water; carry a bucket of cement for 26.2.
Sdfsdfsffsdgsdf wrote:
fisky wrote:On my personal bucket list, the World Marathon Challenge would come in somewhere below getting waterboarded.
I kind of want to try getting waterboarded, just to try it out.
I don't want to do the marathon challenge though, so it's below waterboarding on my list as well.
wejo wrote:
The world marathon challenge is underway and they fly everywhere by charter jet.
On our weekly call we started wondering what that costs. It can't be cheap.
Aviation guys- what sort of plane is required for this and how much would it cost?
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
On a different aspect - is it safe for these guys to run a marathon and then fly straightaway? And for a week in a row?
Mr. Obvious wrote:
So, airplane time is all negotiable. Generally the quoted rate is the rate for tach time or hobbs time.
Also, for this particular application I would assume the rate is all inclusive.
Airplanes can also be leased dry or wet and with or without a pilot (if supplying your own pilot they have to receive approval from the owner).