That's a ton of weight for a guy who's not at all stocky.
That's a ton of weight for a guy who's not at all stocky.
Never mind, it's not all that much as I see it's equivalent to only a 300 lb bench press.
Trap bar deadlift doesn't really count as your true deadlift max.
Is he still throwing up big weight?
Seriously mate? wrote:
Trap bar deadlift doesn't really count as your true deadlift max.
And using D handles. Maybe worth a 450 regular deadlift.
Alan
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Runningart2004 wrote:
Seriously mate? wrote:
Trap bar deadlift doesn't really count as your true deadlift max.
And using D handles. Maybe worth a 450 regular deadlift.
Alan
Why does using D handles on a trap bar deadlift make it easier to lift?
He threw up a pathetic .249 last year.
Sally Vix wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
And using D handles. Maybe worth a 450 regular deadlift.
Alan
Why does using D handles on a trap bar deadlift make it easier to lift?
It gets the handles up higher than normal by a few inches. That lowest point is the point of highest moment on the hips in a traditional deadlift.
505 on the trap bar with d handles is probably equivalent to roughly 420 pounds on a normal bar, in my experience. Trap bar and D handles each allow about 10% more weight, although it depends on the person.
Upside of D handled trap bar is that is makes proper technique easier, so reduces the chance of injury due to improper technique.
A 420 pound deadlift might be about average for a mid pack d1 sprinter weighing 175 pounds. I was a slower than mid pack d1 sprinter (400 runner) and my traditional deadlift 1rm was around 460. Obviously strength is correlated with sprinting speed, but not a great predictor.
Point is, nothing to write home about here.
Still pretty strong. Most of letsrun couldn’t bench 100lbs.
Not sure about the conversion, but as others have said, trapbar deadlift is easier because (1) the handle is a few inches higher and (2) there is no moment arm. Makes a huge difference. I'd say 100 pound difference, easily.
I have never tried maxing out on trapbar deadlift, but sometimes I'll do a farmer's carry with them. Last time I did 405 pounds, and the 405 felt like it was a 300 pound deadlift to get it into position.
A few years back I deadlifted for a couple months and pretty quickly got to 400 pounds at a bodyweight of 165 (standard deadlift). A guy like Harper should be able to easily deadlift 500. My guess is he doesn't even really push it that much.
I would say a general rule of thumb is that a 300 pound bench is equivalent to a 400 pound squat and a 500 pound deadlift. Personally, the 400 pound squat sounds the hardest and the 300 pound bench sounds the easiest, but many people are different.
Drainthefecesswamp wrote:
505 on the trap bar with d handles is probably equivalent to roughly 420 pounds on a normal bar, in my experience. Trap bar and D handles each allow about 10% more weight, although it depends on the person.
For me, 405 on the trap bar with d handles is like 275 on a normal bar. I have terrible flexibility and mechanics and having that couple inches head start and being able to stand in the middle of the weight instead of having it in front of me makes it much easier.
clyde the glyde wrote:
Drainthefecesswamp wrote:
505 on the trap bar with d handles is probably equivalent to roughly 420 pounds on a normal bar, in my experience. Trap bar and D handles each allow about 10% more weight, although it depends on the person.
For me, 405 on the trap bar with d handles is like 275 on a normal bar. I have terrible flexibility and mechanics and having that couple inches head start and being able to stand in the middle of the weight instead of having it in front of me makes it much easier.
You must have horrible leverages for the deadlift. I bet you squat pretty good though.
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
clyde the glyde wrote:
For me, 405 on the trap bar with d handles is like 275 on a normal bar. I have terrible flexibility and mechanics and having that couple inches head start and being able to stand in the middle of the weight instead of having it in front of me makes it much easier.
You must have horrible leverages for the deadlift. I bet you squat pretty good though.
Alan
My squat is much worse. I can deadlift 405 on a regular bar with a rounded back that would get me put on one of those 'fail' videos if someone filmed it, but I won't even say how pitiful my squat is. It's less than my bench. I have a 37" inseam and weird inflexible hips. I got scolded in kindergarten because I couldn't sit cross-legged (still can't). I'm also old and fat, but I'm going with the hips excuse.
The 300/400/500 rule is pretty solid.
I still like the deadlift the most. Even if they're strength equivalent, someone who can deadlift 500 but bench for crap is a much more powerful person than someone who can bench 300 and deadlift for crap.
I'm biased though, I don't like the bench. I prefer overhead pressing for upper-body strength. I prefer a 200 overhead press over a 300 bench any day of the week except Mondays, which is national bench day.
Just wow... wrote:
That's a ton of weight for a guy who's not at all stocky.
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/washington-nationals-bryce-harper-deadlift-505-pounds-ric-flair-010617
We're talking an elite, explosive athlete..dude hit nearly a 600 ft home run at 17..clearly he has some power
So I saw this title and was like “this is going to be bs”. Not stocky? Harper is listed at 6’3, 230... that is quite jacked. Compare this to Wheating who is usually listed at 6’5, 170-175.
To Harper’s credit, he actually lifts it 3 times and looks like he could have done more if he wanted to. And Harper does not seem to be making any attempt to compare the lift to a powerlifting-style deadlift.
Dammit! You guys always get me with the “bump a years old thread” trick right when I wake up lol.
belial wrote:
The 300/400/500 rule is pretty solid.
I still like the deadlift the most. Even if they're strength equivalent, someone who can deadlift 500 but bench for crap is a much more powerful person than someone who can bench 300 and deadlift for crap.
I'm biased though, I don't like the bench. I prefer overhead pressing for upper-body strength. I prefer a 200 overhead press over a 300 bench any day of the week except Mondays, which is national bench day.
I've had the 200/300/400/500 goal for a long time. So far, I've only hit the 400# squat. I got to 194 on the strict press, but then got distracted, and haven't worked on it for a while. Deadlift will probably be the hardest for me. The most I've ever hit for a deadlift is 465, and I used to work on it a lot.