We all know how Melisssa Bishop and the rest of the women's 800 field got robbed in Rio. It's not the medalists' fault, but come on. That race was a travesty. I challenge LRC to take a stand to ignore the medalists in that race and rank MB #1 for the year. T&FN isn't going to do it. There is nothing to lose here. No one outside of the LRC community is going to give a damn about the LRC rankings anyway (no disrespect intended). I would guess that most folks here consider MB the #1 female at 800 anyway, so why not make it official? This gesture would be a small vindication for her and the other four women in that race. I know this sounds insensitive, but I believe it is how many of us who care about fair competition feel.
Melissa Bishop got robbed - come on LRC, take a stand!
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Leftist females got what they deserved.
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Don't care much for Bishop. She parties too much and doesn't take the sport seriously, so serves her right.
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Yeah, doesn't take it seriously, unlike Caster who has to train once a week to run 1:55.
lkjy wrote:
Don't care much for Bishop. She parties too much and doesn't take the sport seriously, so serves her right. -
The fact that people don't do anything about the situation but bite their tongue says a lot about liberalization and political correctness and how it's ruined the world. No one has the balls to stand up. What a complete pussified fraud the world has become....And for the individual who said she parties too much--you're probably insecure that you can't have a good time. Now I'm not sure of her habits, but going out on some weekends is relatively standard for a lot of people. CAS is a self-servicing, political correctness propagating, money hungry entity.
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Barabbas wrote:
We all know how Melisssa Bishop and the rest of the women's 800 field got robbed in Rio. It's not the medalists' fault, but come on. That race was a travesty. I challenge LRC to take a stand to ignore the medalists in that race and rank MB #1 for the year. T&FN isn't going to do it. There is nothing to lose here. No one outside of the LRC community is going to give a damn about the LRC rankings anyway (no disrespect intended). I would guess that most folks here consider MB the #1 female at 800 anyway, so why not make it official? This gesture would be a small vindication for her and the other four women in that race. I know this sounds insensitive, but I believe it is how many of us who care about fair competition feel.
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lkjy wrote:
Don't care much for Bishop. She parties too much and doesn't take the sport seriously, so serves her right.
Who are you confusing her with - because she certainly doesn't party a lot. -
Good points. LRC could have three 800 m rankings:
a) male (Rudisha)
b) female (Melissa)
c) not male (Caster)
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Ontario is a great place to live. Hooligans such as yourself should move to Chicago.
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"It's so bad, Bishop knows that she would be thrown in jail or at the minimum be subject to violent protests in her actual home."
The people in Windsor aren't going to protest, dumb-dumb -
Billy Bob Boyd wrote:
Ontario is a great place to live. Hooligans such as yourself should move to Chicago.
Ontario is the California of Canada, only with a mediocre climate and a far worse debt situation:
"While Ontario’s population is about one third of California’s, its debt load is more than double that of the biggest U.S. state."
http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/with-twice-the-debt-of-california-ontario-is-now-the-worlds-most-indebted-sub-sovereign-borrower -
Yes, but it's a great place to live. Except for people like you of course
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Billy Bob Boyd wrote:
Yes, but it's a great place to live. Except for people like you of course
I don't and wouldn't live there. All that debt is going to catch up with Ontario, eventually. Unfortunately it will most likely drag down the rest of the country as well... -
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Old men wrote:
Letsrun posters in the dark ages. Woman marries a woman and so therefore she is a man lol
More like XY male, who is born with testicles, no womb and deformed external genitalia grows up acting and dressing like a boy. Caster's old principal has stated that he thought that Caster was a boy as "she" wore the boys' school uniform and roughhoused and played football with the other boys.
Like the majority of XY males, Caster found himself attracted to women and eventually married one. Caster is not a lesbian; just a regular heterosexual male with deformed external genitalia. Unfortunately this joke culture that we live in has decided that it would be un-PC to not allow him to compete in the women's division as he claims to identify as female.
How convenient for Caster. Rather than being a mediocre collegiate-level male runner he gets a free post-secondary education, likely hundreds of thousands of dollars in sponsorship, prize money and appearance fees and international fame (albeit controversial fame).
Caster Semenya is not a woman.
Caster Semenya IS an opportunistic sack of crap.
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Caster Semenya is not a normal woman and thus should not be allowed to compete at the Olympics.
This was my original stance and I have gained reassurance from reading articles from others who seem to share a similar opinion.
First, I will share why I think he should not be allowed: plain and simple he is a hermaphrodite. Now I don't know what is the politically correct term this month, and it does not really matter. But bottom line is that he has internal testicles. Those testes secrete testosterone that is ten times the level of the average woman.
As a result he has no female secondary sexual characteristics, his voice sounds like a man, he looks like a man and runs faster (almost effortlessly) then the best female 800m runners on the planet.
Now, since my opinion is simply not enough, I will share some excerpts from articles I have read about this issue:
[1] Denise Lewis of the Telegraph wrote here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/08/16/caster-semenya-competing-at-rio-olympics-2016-is-not-fair-on-any/
“I am no scientist and I don’t understand all the intricacies of how different substances enhance performance, but you cannot deny that if someone has inflated testosterone levels, it must give them an advantage . . . the excess testosterone must be helping her and I’d be lying to say I wouldn’t feel aggrieved if I was one of her rivals.â€
[2] World famous and best-selling Canadian author Malcolm Gladwell (who is a former OFSAA champion in the 1500m himself) in this article:
http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/caster-semenya-and-the-logic-of-olympic-competition
was asked ‘Do you think (Caster Semenya) should be allowed to compete as a woman?
Gladwell’s answer was:
“Of course not! And why do I say of course not? Because not a single track-and-field fan that I’m aware of disagrees with me. I cannot tell you how many arguments I’ve gotten into over the past two weeks about this, and I’ve been astonished at how many people fail to appreciate the athletic significance of this. Remember, this is a competitive issue, not a human-rights issue.â€
Gladwell went on to say:
"Semenya is equipped with an extraordinary and anomalous genetic advantage. The previous policy of international track was that she could compete as a woman if she took medication to lower her testosterone to “normal†levels. That restriction has now been lifted. And so we have a situation where one woman, born with the biological equivalent of a turbocharger, is now being allowed to “compete†against the ninety-nine per cent of women who have no such advantage.â€
In Conclusion:
this is not an issue of racism. I am the first one to call out racism. But protesting against Caster Semenya’s participation at the Olympics is not a race issue. If he was white, I would say the exact same thing.
A post-apartheid, hypersensitive South African government is making this a race issue, and that is wrong and the IAAF and Seb Coe should not be so scared of them.
Finally, this is also not an issue of sexism. As a strong feminist, I am the first to stand up for women rights. Growing up in Canada I have seen the significant progress that women have made in sports. But this is not an issue of women rights.
It is an issue of an unfair advantage, that Caster Semenya continuously takes advantage of. Only to take away a medal from real women - like Canadian Melissa Bishop - who have dedicated their lives to the sport and to the motto of fair play.
Want a level playing field? Ask Semenya to consult a good surgeon who can remove those internal testicles, thus normalizing her testosterone levels. But . . . he will never do that. -
Anyone remember Maria Mutola? Just saying.
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I believe Semenya is a woman, born a woman.
I believe Ms. Bishop needs to train harder. Semenya is not the WR holder. If Bishop could run 1:54 consistently, she would have no issues with Semenya.
