Talk about range...started easy...seems a god bit faster was possible.
Talk about range...started easy...seems a god bit faster was possible.
Such good leg speed for a middle distance runner.
Running my way wrote:
Talk about range...started easy...seems a god bit faster was possible.
https://youtu.be/FktMJWzpqHg
Range? Don't think the guy ever even broke 14 for 5000.
oh please wrote:
Running my way wrote:Talk about range...started easy...seems a god bit faster was possible.
https://youtu.be/FktMJWzpqHgRange? Don't think the guy ever even broke 14 for 5000.
Maybe because he only jogged one?
He did however beat both the world champions of 5 and 10 at their game.
I enjoy David Coleman's commentary, but I failed to see Coe kick "twice." I thought he made a surge starting at roughly 120m to go and maintained it to the finish.
Even better one, 45.6 after a 1:44.0 front running win 90 mins before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhZGonCBaOM
He stumbled, lost 4m on the leader/take over and still won.
More like 45.0 without the stumble. Certainly worth sub 46.0 in an open 400m
Coghlan and Cova wrote:
Range? Don't think the guy ever even broke 14 for 5000.
Maybe because he only jogged one?
He did however beat both the world champions of 5 and 10 at their game.[/quote]
Yes, beat Coghlan and McLeod over 4 miles and Cova over 7.5km, both on the roads.
he stumbled because he faced the wrong way on the hand off. You face the inside the way the track is turning.
Red Arrow wrote:
Coghlan and Cova wrote:Range? Don't think the guy ever even broke 14 for 5000.
Maybe because he only jogged one?
He did however beat both the world champions of 5 and 10 at their game.
Yes, beat Coghlan and McLeod over 4 miles and Cova over 7.5km, both on the roads.[/quote]
Stop it, you guys are embarrassing yourselves with hero worship. There are people on this Earth who have run 3:31/3:32 for 1500 up to 2:03:xx for a marathon. That's range.
Deano/Red Arrow starts an anonymous thread so they can worship their heroes yet again
oh please wrote:
Red Arrow wrote:Maybe because he only jogged one?
He did however beat both the world champions of 5 and 10 at their game.
Yes, beat Coghlan and McLeod over 4 miles and Cova over 7.5km, both on the roads.
Stop it, you guys are embarrassing yourselves with hero worship. There are people on this Earth who have run 3:31/3:32 for 1500 up to 2:03:xx for a marathon. That's range.[/quote]
Those runners are distance runners with greater range. I haven't said anything about Coe having better range. He was a middle distance guy. He could run a sub 46 400 relay, those distance guys could't. Different range.
To the other poster. I never started this thread and I'm not Deano.
I'd be about 90% sure he broke 14 mins for 5k in a training time trial at some stage, but he probably knew that he needed to get closer to 13 minutes in order to be competitive. Anyhow he was competitive over 800m & 1500m throughout his career, so no need to experiment.
there's a kid on my hs team that has split 46.7.. coe was a professional mid-distance man. What is impressive? Doesn't that A&M kid Brazier have 45-sec and 1:43 speed?
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
I'd be about 90% sure he broke 14 mins for 5k in a training time trial at some stage, but he probably knew that he needed to get closer to 13 minutes in order to be competitive. Anyhow he was competitive over 800m & 1500m throughout his career, so no need to experiment.
It has been suggested that Coe could run around ~13:30 based upon some monster endurance sessions he did.
The late Frank Horwill wrote this:
But where did Coe get his amazing endurance from? The answer came to me in 1986 when I went to Battersea Park Track one Saturday morning with a 13:11 5km performer to do a session of 7 x 800m at 5km speed with 45 secs rest. The rep times were fixed at 2:08 because the 5km runner was returning to fitness after injury. Coe was on the track and came across and asked what we were doing and could he join in? I felt a little apprehensive that an acknowledged 800m/1,500m runner would not survive a 5km pace session with a short recovery. The 800ms went like this: 2:08, 2:06, 2:04, 2:02, 2:00, 1:58 and 1:56! Coe led them all. Afterwards, he confessed that he did a 5km pace session at 13:20 speed each week. I ventured the opinion that he could run a good 5km anytime. He agreed, but said he didn't like the event! It is doubtful whether any 800m runner before or since could have completed such a session in such times.
45/1:43, yes, but not 3:29 too.
glj/ wrote:
there's a kid on my hs team that has split 46.7.. coe was a professional mid-distance man. What is impressive? Doesn't that A&M kid Brazier have 45-sec and 1:43 speed?
Have you actually read all the posts?
The OP comments how easy the 46.6 relay leg on the link looks, and that he could have gone a lot faster.
Another poster puts up a link of Coe running a 45.6 leg after running an 800 in 1:44 earlier in meet.
Brazier and a few others may be able to run a 45 split and a 1:43, but that isn't as impressive as someone running a 45 split and a 1:41. Only 3 other men have actually done that. What's more impressive is that Coe also ran a 3:29 and set WR at 1500 and mile. No other human has done that ~ run a sub 46 400 relay, a sub 1:42 800 and a sub 3:30 1500.
What is there not to get?
Alan Webb did it.
What else is there?
glj/ wrote:
Alan Webb did it.
What else is there?
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Alan Webb never ran a 45 relay leg, and only managed 1:43 and 3:30 for the 8 & 15.
So no, Webb didn't manage to break any of those barriers.
Murphy has split sub-46 in college and is a 1:42 guy. Heading towards Coe-lke times soon.
Pacifico wrote:
glj/ wrote:there's a kid on my hs team that has split 46.7.. coe was a professional mid-distance man. What is impressive? Doesn't that A&M kid Brazier have 45-sec and 1:43 speed?
Have you actually read all the posts?
The OP comments how easy the 46.6 relay leg on the link looks, and that he could have gone a lot faster.
Another poster puts up a link of Coe running a 45.6 leg after running an 800 in 1:44 earlier in meet.
Brazier and a few others may be able to run a 45 split and a 1:43, but that isn't as impressive as someone running a 45 split and a 1:41. Only 3 other men have actually done that. What's more impressive is that Coe also ran a 3:29 and set WR at 1500 and mile. No other human has done that ~ run a sub 46 400 relay, a sub 1:42 800 and a sub 3:30 1500.
What is there not to get?
Red Arrow wrote:
Even better one, 45.6 after a 1:44.0 front running win 90 mins before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhZGonCBaOMHe stumbled, lost 4m on the leader/take over and still won.
More like 45.0 without the stumble. Certainly worth sub 46.0 in an open 400m
He has an open 400 PB of 46.9. Deal with it. You goddamn sound like Vento.