Erik Gonzalez runs 14:37 at Mt Sac and gets disqualified for wearing teammates bib

Don't know the story, but you don't follow the rules, you should get DQ'd. No exceptions. It doesn't matter how fast you are. Why wouldn't he get DQ'd for wearing the other guys bibs? Why have bibs at all?

What In The World? wrote:

They are really going to DQ this kid from Rubidoux who ran 14:37 for wearing his teammates bib/chip?

"TIMING

We will be utilizing chip timing from Finished Results. If you have any changes YOU MUST REPORT THEM PRIOR TO THE RACE START TO THE PROBLEM SOLVING AREA LOCATED AT THE SOUTH END OF THE FINISH CHUTE. All runners must wear the bib and timing chip assigned to them or they will be disqualified. THIS YEAR CHIPS WILL NOT BE COLLECTED!"

He still ran 14:37 at Mt. SAC, at least he'll always be able to say that.

bushwood country club wrote:

Don't know the story, but you don't follow the rules, you should get DQ'd. No exceptions. It doesn't matter how fast you are. Why wouldn't he get DQ'd for wearing the other guys bibs? Why have bibs at all?

Because if a rule doesn't hurt anything it may as well not exist. Accidentally wearing the wrong bib doesn't affect the team score if it is a team mate's bib. This seems obvious to me.

Some rules are lame, like this one. How many runners ran 14:37 that would confuse the "officials". Simply fix the finish records and don't impose a DQ.

Fix the record wrote:

Some rules are lame, like this one. How many runners ran 14:37 that would confuse the "officials". Simply fix the finish records and don't impose a DQ.

+1

bushwood country club wrote:

Don't know the story, but you don't follow the rules, you should get DQ'd. No exceptions. It doesn't matter how fast you are. Why wouldn't he get DQ'd for wearing the other guys bibs? Why have bibs at all?

Found the statist

"Some rules are lame, like this one. How many runners ran 14:37 that would confuse the "officials". Simply fix the finish records and don't impose a DQ."

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I agree! What possible advantage did this give his team? It sounds like a simple mistake that's all.

Was there some other motivation - like making a 'statement' about something?

Seems lame. Yes, 'rules are rules' but there's no intensional cheating going on here!

I can remember back in the day arriving late to a huge invitational when our bus got stuck in traffic and our teams assistant coach ran to get the numbers. We were all way behind - didn't get a chance to even walk the course and just were told quickly to "throw on a number" and get to the starting line in two minutes. Results were all screwed up - coach apologized and sorted it later but complained to officials about road blockage prior to the race. How many races do they run at Mt. Sac on the day? Dozens, it's bound to happen.

Usually a coach or assistant picks up all the numbers with chips on the back and then hands them out to the runners. Sounds like it was an honest mistake. We used to have a couple of identical twins who got each other's number from time to time.

He should be banned for life. This is worse than doping. He just made a mockery of the sport and should be ashamed of himself.

Post results link please.

Give a little power to some people and it goes to their heads.

I've seen it in school, in the Army and at every place I've ever worked.

Sometimes a little wisdom is required to negotiate the 'gray' areas. Those with no ability to use their minds must rely on the old 'black and white' excuse and say: "Rules are rules." (I don't want to have to think.)

It's exists for the cheaters. The team that puts in an illegible runner to run under a different name. It happens more than u think. Y have timers then. Go back to a stopwatch and tongue depressors

Lsu wrote:

It's exists for the cheaters. The team that puts in an illegible runner to run under a different name. It happens more than u think. Y have timers then. Go back to a stopwatch and tongue depressors

0/10

Two runner with unintentionally swapped bibs. One runs extremely fast. Swap the names with the times. No DQ. Done.

Two runner who intentionally swapped a single bib. The one who runs is ineligible. Yes, DQ. Done.

old guy 70 wrote:

Give a little power to some people and it goes to their heads.

I've seen it in school, in the Army and at every place I've ever worked.

Sometimes a little wisdom is required to negotiate the 'gray' areas. Those with no ability to use their minds must rely on the old 'black and white' excuse and say: "Rules are rules." (I don't want to have to think.)

Says the cuck who never served in the Army.

Once you say 'cuck,' all remotely intelligent people know to ignore everything you ever post in the future. So thanks for that!

LOL College coaches could care less what bib he was wearing.

Lsu wrote:

It's exists for the cheaters. The team that puts in an illegible runner to run under a different name. It happens more than u think. Y have timers then. Go back to a stopwatch and tongue depressors

This.

Was both the bib and chip wrong? I doubt you'd do this on purpose with a 14:37 guy. Let's use common sense.

Common sense--something you lack--is that BOTH the bib and chip go together. They are not handed out separately. Have you ever run a race with a bib and a chip? I think not.

In every High School race I have been to that has used chip timing you are given a stack of chips and a separate stack of bibs. Then there is a print out in the packet and the coach must match the athlete name to the number, pass out the matching bib and chip. At any of the three points (passing out Bib, passing out chip, matching athlete to the correct number) a human error could occur. This is how it has been at every HS race I have been to that used chips. I know athletes did not return chips today. But was that not a valid question as to the mix up?But more importantly why are you so angry? Why the hostility?

Common...Sense wrote:

Common sense--something you lack--is that BOTH the bib and chip go together. They are not handed out separately. Have you ever run a race with a bib and a chip? I think not.