She was always thin, but looking at her Olympic photos, she doesn't have a single bit of fat anywhere you can see every muscle fiber in her thigh, definitely the smallest I've seen her at and thus the 30:13 AR. How does one get that small without thyroid meds? Is it something else? like cyclic calorie restriction or something?
What? It is a girl with at least 10% of body fat.
Now this is low body fat %.
Lots of running, and not a lot of eating.
Few sessions in the gym lifiting as well. Not heavy weights because shes a 10k runner but still a few light weights.
ruppandroll wrote:
Lots of running, and not a lot of eating.
High mileage.
The patriarchy
I'm a guy, not a girl, so this might not work for girls. But what worked for me was adding a little bit of lifting, decreasing my carbohydrate intake (not eliminating), really stepping up my vegetable intake, and consuming herbs and spices in copious quantities.
I'm still experimenting with that last part, but I seem to have stumbled onto something that may work: rosemary and cloves. I don't know if it's the rosemary, the cloves (the spice, not the cigarettes), or the combination, but 3 out of 3 times so far I seem to wake up the next morning thinner despite no other changes in routine. Not a trend, I know. Not statistically significant scientific evidence, I know. But I'm going to keep trying it, and maybe it'll keep working. Sprinkling ground rosemary onto a sandwich is easy. The difficult part comes with putting a heaping teaspoon of cloves into a 6-oz. glass of water and chugging it down.
With the carbohydrates, though, there are tons of things people eat that they shouldn't be. Beer = fail. Tortillas = fail. Corn chips (or any chips) = fail. White bread (whether it's "Italian" bread, sandwich bread, rolls at a restaurant, etc.) = fail. White rice = fail. "Juices" that have any sugar added in the ingredients = fail. Cappuccino/frappuccino/whatever-your-coffee-purchase if more than coffee beans and water go into it = fail. Cakes, pies, cookies all = fail. What's left? Whole-grain breads and products (which is more than just wheat, oats, or oat bran -- there's spelt, amaranth, teff, and others), quinoa, brown rice, bulgar, vegetables, and fruits & true fruit juices. This is not to say that I never eat a cookie, or celebrate a friend's birthday with a slice of birthday cake. However, it happens like once a month, not 3+ times a week.
I also eat NOTHING that is deep-fried, and I NEVER buy a product if "partially hydrogenated" is on the ingredients list. The last one is harder to eliminate than you think, since some restaurants use partially hydrogenated soybean oil in more than their deep-fryer.
Unless your water comes from a private spring, you should also filter your water. Town/city water has been rendered sufficiently sanitary from bacteria, microbes, etc., but there are many complex chemicals, pharmaceuticals, etc. that can't be filtered or are not part of the sanitation process. As a result, they're in your drinking water. So filter it to get these things out, and as a consequence of removing these things and a majority of the chlorine your water will taste better. I use the Berkey Light
http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/berkey-light.html
You can buy cheaper replacement filters elsewhere online.
Lastly, the running itself. Again, I'm not a girl, but what seemed to work well for me to slim down was 8-mile progression runs, where I go from slower than marathon pace to about 5k pace across the run. I use the first 2 miles to speed up to about marathon pace, remain at that pace as a steady state for 4 miles, and use the last 2 to progressively get faster and faster, and just churn out what pace I can on that day. I'm not a coach, so I don't know if this is optimal for developing certain bodily systems for a specific distance, but it was the "game-changer" that helped me slim down.
I wish you the best of luck. Don't body-shame yourself, don't worry about weight. Just eat right and run right, and you'll naturally slim down and be the best you can be.
She probably took illegal Kenacort injections like Bradley Wiggins and all of Team Sky does by making up fake diseases.
Felt like you needed to mention twice that you weren't a girl, ridiculous dietary restrictions, talks about " body shaming", most likely you're a girl.
In what you eat wrote:
I'm a guy, not a girl, so this might not work for girls. But what worked for me was adding a little bit of lifting, decreasing my carbohydrate intake (not eliminating), really stepping up my vegetable intake, and consuming herbs and spices in copious quantities.
I'm still experimenting with that last part, but I seem to have stumbled onto something that may work: rosemary and cloves. I don't know if it's the rosemary, the cloves (the spice, not the cigarettes), or the combination, but 3 out of 3 times so far I seem to wake up the next morning thinner despite no other changes in routine. Not a trend, I know. Not statistically significant scientific evidence, I know. But I'm going to keep trying it, and maybe it'll keep working. Sprinkling ground rosemary onto a sandwich is easy. The difficult part comes with putting a heaping teaspoon of cloves into a 6-oz. glass of water and chugging it down.
With the carbohydrates, though, there are tons of things people eat that they shouldn't be. Beer = fail. Tortillas = fail. Corn chips (or any chips) = fail. White bread (whether it's "Italian" bread, sandwich bread, rolls at a restaurant, etc.) = fail. White rice = fail. "Juices" that have any sugar added in the ingredients = fail. Cappuccino/frappuccino/whatever-your-coffee-purchase if more than coffee beans and water go into it = fail. Cakes, pies, cookies all = fail. What's left? Whole-grain breads and products (which is more than just wheat, oats, or oat bran -- there's spelt, amaranth, teff, and others), quinoa, brown rice, bulgar, vegetables, and fruits & true fruit juices. This is not to say that I never eat a cookie, or celebrate a friend's birthday with a slice of birthday cake. However, it happens like once a month, not 3+ times a week.
I also eat NOTHING that is deep-fried, and I NEVER buy a product if "partially hydrogenated" is on the ingredients list. The last one is harder to eliminate than you think, since some restaurants use partially hydrogenated soybean oil in more than their deep-fryer.
Unless your water comes from a private spring, you should also filter your water. Town/city water has been rendered sufficiently sanitary from bacteria, microbes, etc., but there are many complex chemicals, pharmaceuticals, etc. that can't be filtered or are not part of the sanitation process. As a result, they're in your drinking water. So filter it to get these things out, and as a consequence of removing these things and a majority of the chlorine your water will taste better. I use the Berkey Light
http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/berkey-light.htmlYou can buy cheaper replacement filters elsewhere online.
Lastly, the running itself. Again, I'm not a girl, but what seemed to work well for me to slim down was 8-mile progression runs, where I go from slower than marathon pace to about 5k pace across the run. I use the first 2 miles to speed up to about marathon pace, remain at that pace as a steady state for 4 miles, and use the last 2 to progressively get faster and faster, and just churn out what pace I can on that day. I'm not a coach, so I don't know if this is optimal for developing certain bodily systems for a specific distance, but it was the "game-changer" that helped me slim down.
I wish you the best of luck. Don't body-shame yourself, don't worry about weight. Just eat right and run right, and you'll naturally slim down and be the best you can be.
Black Med Student wrote:
Felt like you needed to mention twice that you weren't a girl, ridiculous dietary restrictions, talks about " body shaming", most likely you're a girl.
In what you eat wrote:I'm a guy, not a girl, so this might not work for girls. But what worked for me was adding a little bit of lifting, decreasing my carbohydrate intake (not eliminating), really stepping up my vegetable intake, and consuming herbs and spices in copious quantities.
I'm still experimenting with that last part, but I seem to have stumbled onto something that may work: rosemary and cloves. I don't know if it's the rosemary, the cloves (the spice, not the cigarettes), or the combination, but 3 out of 3 times so far I seem to wake up the next morning thinner despite no other changes in routine. Not a trend, I know. Not statistically significant scientific evidence, I know. But I'm going to keep trying it, and maybe it'll keep working. Sprinkling ground rosemary onto a sandwich is easy. The difficult part comes with putting a heaping teaspoon of cloves into a 6-oz. glass of water and chugging it down.
With the carbohydrates, though, there are tons of things people eat that they shouldn't be. Beer = fail. Tortillas = fail. Corn chips (or any chips) = fail. White bread (whether it's "Italian" bread, sandwich bread, rolls at a restaurant, etc.) = fail. White rice = fail. "Juices" that have any sugar added in the ingredients = fail. Cappuccino/frappuccino/whatever-your-coffee-purchase if more than coffee beans and water go into it = fail. Cakes, pies, cookies all = fail. What's left? Whole-grain breads and products (which is more than just wheat, oats, or oat bran -- there's spelt, amaranth, teff, and others), quinoa, brown rice, bulgar, vegetables, and fruits & true fruit juices. This is not to say that I never eat a cookie, or celebrate a friend's birthday with a slice of birthday cake. However, it happens like once a month, not 3+ times a week.
I also eat NOTHING that is deep-fried, and I NEVER buy a product if "partially hydrogenated" is on the ingredients list. The last one is harder to eliminate than you think, since some restaurants use partially hydrogenated soybean oil in more than their deep-fryer.
Unless your water comes from a private spring, you should also filter your water. Town/city water has been rendered sufficiently sanitary from bacteria, microbes, etc., but there are many complex chemicals, pharmaceuticals, etc. that can't be filtered or are not part of the sanitation process. As a result, they're in your drinking water. So filter it to get these things out, and as a consequence of removing these things and a majority of the chlorine your water will taste better. I use the Berkey Light
http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/berkey-light.htmlYou can buy cheaper replacement filters elsewhere online.
Lastly, the running itself. Again, I'm not a girl, but what seemed to work well for me to slim down was 8-mile progression runs, where I go from slower than marathon pace to about 5k pace across the run. I use the first 2 miles to speed up to about marathon pace, remain at that pace as a steady state for 4 miles, and use the last 2 to progressively get faster and faster, and just churn out what pace I can on that day. I'm not a coach, so I don't know if this is optimal for developing certain bodily systems for a specific distance, but it was the "game-changer" that helped me slim down.
I wish you the best of luck. Don't body-shame yourself, don't worry about weight. Just eat right and run right, and you'll naturally slim down and be the best you can be.
Yeah, that was painful to read. You can easily lose weight and stay lean without all those mad diet restrictions. And white rice is a "fail" for weight/fat loss?! Go to China, Kenya, or anywhere else in the world where people use refined grains as their staple food and find me the fat people, please! What makes you fat is eating fat - so yes, avoid oil, avoid animal products in general because they're soaked in fat, and don't eat a ton of nuts, avocados and all that stuff! Vegetables, fruits, grains, bread, leafy greens - all good for training & getting/staying lean! It doesn't have to be that complicated!
all the guy did was describe a very healthy diet. Sure it is strict. But with all the crap out there to eat you have to be strict to eat super healthy. I'm not as strict as that person, and when I go out to eat I completely abandon the restrictions because that kind of defeats the purpose of eating out. But there was certainly nothing painful to read about a very healthy diet.
true brit wrote:
Black Med Student wrote:Felt like you needed to mention twice that you weren't a girl, ridiculous dietary restrictions, talks about " body shaming", most likely you're a girl.
Yeah, that was painful to read. You can easily lose weight and stay lean without all those mad diet restrictions. And white rice is a "fail" for weight/fat loss?! Go to China, Kenya, or anywhere else in the world where people use refined grains as their staple food and find me the fat people, please! What makes you fat is eating fat - so yes, avoid oil, avoid animal products in general because they're soaked in fat, and don't eat a ton of nuts, avocados and all that stuff! Vegetables, fruits, grains, bread, leafy greens - all good for training & getting/staying lean! It doesn't have to be that complicated!
Eating fat does not make you fat. It makes you feel full and less inclined to eat tons of all those other things in order to make yourself feel full.
Need the secrets wrote: How does one get that small without thyroid meds? Is it something else?
Thyroid meds. "Asthma" is a prescribed favorite. Or a plain old eating disorder. All the choices are not good.
Don't turn running upside down so it is a means to getting skinny.
Molly Huddle has been one of the most consistent US runners over a long period of time, also without major injuries. She's doing something right and I highly doubt it's an eating disorder. More likely high volume of training and clean diet.
It's got to be diet because Americans don't dope.
In what you eat wrote:
I'm a guy, not a girl, so this might not work for girls. But what worked for me was adding a little bit of lifting, decreasing my carbohydrate intake (not eliminating), really stepping up my vegetable intake, and consuming herbs and spices in copious quantities.
I'm still experimenting with that last part, but I seem to have stumbled onto something that may work: rosemary and cloves. I don't know if it's the rosemary, the cloves (the spice, not the cigarettes), or the combination, but 3 out of 3 times so far I seem to wake up the next morning thinner despite no other changes in routine. Not a trend, I know. Not statistically significant scientific evidence, I know. But I'm going to keep trying it, and maybe it'll keep working. Sprinkling ground rosemary onto a sandwich is easy. The difficult part comes with putting a heaping teaspoon of cloves into a 6-oz. glass of water and chugging it down.
With the carbohydrates, though, there are tons of things people eat that they shouldn't be. Beer = fail. Tortillas = fail. Corn chips (or any chips) = fail. White bread (whether it's "Italian" bread, sandwich bread, rolls at a restaurant, etc.) = fail. White rice = fail. "Juices" that have any sugar added in the ingredients = fail. Cappuccino/frappuccino/whatever-your-coffee-purchase if more than coffee beans and water go into it = fail. Cakes, pies, cookies all = fail. What's left? Whole-grain breads and products (which is more than just wheat, oats, or oat bran -- there's spelt, amaranth, teff, and others), quinoa, brown rice, bulgar, vegetables, and fruits & true fruit juices. This is not to say that I never eat a cookie, or celebrate a friend's birthday with a slice of birthday cake. However, it happens like once a month, not 3+ times a week.
I also eat NOTHING that is deep-fried, and I NEVER buy a product if "partially hydrogenated" is on the ingredients list. The last one is harder to eliminate than you think, since some restaurants use partially hydrogenated soybean oil in more than their deep-fryer.
Unless your water comes from a private spring, you should also filter your water. Town/city water has been rendered sufficiently sanitary from bacteria, microbes, etc., but there are many complex chemicals, pharmaceuticals, etc. that can't be filtered or are not part of the sanitation process. As a result, they're in your drinking water. So filter it to get these things out, and as a consequence of removing these things and a majority of the chlorine your water will taste better. I use the Berkey Light
http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/berkey-light.htmlYou can buy cheaper replacement filters elsewhere online.
Lastly, the running itself. Again, I'm not a girl, but what seemed to work well for me to slim down was 8-mile progression runs, where I go from slower than marathon pace to about 5k pace across the run. I use the first 2 miles to speed up to about marathon pace, remain at that pace as a steady state for 4 miles, and use the last 2 to progressively get faster and faster, and just churn out what pace I can on that day. I'm not a coach, so I don't know if this is optimal for developing certain bodily systems for a specific distance, but it was the "game-changer" that helped me slim down.
I wish you the best of luck. Don't body-shame yourself, don't worry about weight. Just eat right and run right, and you'll naturally slim down and be the best you can be.
I eat all that shit and have very low BF.
step 1 eat nothing but skinless chicken with rice and veg
step 2 do trey hardee's 2 min ab workout
step 3 run
rinse repeat
mediocresprinter wrote:
step 1 eat nothing but skinless chicken with rice and veg
step 2 do trey hardee's 2 min ab workout
step 3 run
rinse repeat
No! No, no, not 2! 7! Nobody's comin' up with 2 minute abs. Who works out in 2 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.
7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office. 'Cause you're f***in' fired!
