Men: why are promiscuous women considered undesirable?

WTFBBQ wrote:

I'm an idiot? Prevalence is about 20% in the US. If someone has had hundreds to thousands of partners it doesn't take a degree in mathematics to ascertain that the individual more likely than not has herpes considering that most forms of birth control are not effective in preventing the spread. What is more probable is the individual has it and does not know that they have it. Why worry about herpes? Here you go:

The disease is potentially fatal in newborns and can be particularly severe in people with hiv infection.

Symptoms of herpes—recurrent painful ulcers— can be treated, but the infection cannot be cured. Most people with herpes have no symptoms and are unaware of their infection. In a national household survey, less than 10 percent of people who tested positive with herpes knew they were infected (Fleming, 1997). With or without visible symptoms, the disease can be transmitted between sex partners, from mothers to newborns, and can increase a person’s risk of becoming infected with hiv. Genital herpes can also make hiv-infected individuals more infectious and is believed to play a role in the heterosexual spread of hiv in the United States.

As far as others have stated about HPV not being an issue

Get a clue.

joedirt wrote:

If someone has had hundreds to thousands of partners it doesn't take a degree in mathematics to ascertain that the individual more likely than not has herpes considering that most forms of birth control are not effective in preventing the spread.

Hundreds to thousands of partners. Oh brother.

I'm serious. Grow up.

Virginity is the ultimate gift a woman can give her future spouse. It's the definitive peak of exclusivity and value. If the sex has been given out for free throughout her life then what is the woman's worth? The value of the female drops and there's no such thing as exclusivity with someone who has been extremely sexually promiscuous. A female who has had 1-2 partners isn't as bad because these partners could have been the subject of social pressure and a few 'mistakes' are acceptable but if she's ridden the cck carousel then honestly what is her value?

By all means people can be with whomever they want but I think what most people seek with long term relationships is exclusive rights that others can't or haven't enjoyed with said partner. If multiple people have had that right then the value decreases.

Narway wrote:

If the sex has been given out for free throughout her life then what is the woman's worth?

A woman's worth isn't tied to sex. She isn't an object for a man's pleasure, she's her own living being.

Just like a man's value isn't tied to his strength? (and that's used loosely since strength isn't just the physical state of being. ) You're either a girl making that statement or a beta male.

hey kitty girl wrote:

Narway wrote:

If the sex has been given out for free throughout her life then what is the woman's worth?

A woman's worth isn't tied to sex. She isn't an object for a man's pleasure, she's her own living being.

It's a buyer's market you naive little girl.

Finisher wrote:

I will take a stab at top 10:

1. Women who want or need more partners are associated with having low self esteem.

2. Women who have many partners are associated with a likelihood to cheat on their partners.

3. Historically women having many partners is analogous to prostitution which is still considered an undesirable career.

4. Men project what they would want for a daughter, mother or sister on their partners.

5. Part of desire is feeling special which is harder if you are #483 for a girl who is 23 yrs old.

6. STDs would be statistically a higher risk.

7. Performance anxieties.

8. Used car analogy.

9. Seems unlikely that a promiscuous girl would be your girlfriend which some men want.

10. If you are not first, you're last.

This exactly

hey kitty girl wrote:

Narway wrote:

If the sex has been given out for free throughout her life then what is the woman's worth?

A woman's worth isn't tied to sex. She isn't an object for a man's pleasure, she's her own living being.

Likewise, men aren't an object for women's pleasure, so why do the more promiscuous of them seek a new one every time they need a fix?

Sailor wrote:

Finisher wrote:

I will take a stab at top 10:

1. Women who want or need more partners are associated with having low self esteem.

2. Women who have many partners are associated with a likelihood to cheat on their partners.

3. Historically women having many partners is analogous to prostitution which is still considered an undesirable career.

4. Men project what they would want for a daughter, mother or sister on their partners.

5. Part of desire is feeling special which is harder if you are #483 for a girl who is 23 yrs old.

6. STDs would be statistically a higher risk.

7. Performance anxieties.

8. Used car analogy.

9. Seems unlikely that a promiscuous girl would be your girlfriend which some men want.

10. If you are not first, you're last.

This exactly

This is the redpill. Any objection is simply Mr. Nice Guy fallacy or a girl trying to NAWALT because they think giving false advice is admiring. Women are notoriously bad at giving advice on women.

roasted, again wrote:

hey kitty girl wrote:

A woman's worth isn't tied to sex. She isn't an object for a man's pleasure, she's her own living being.

Likewise, men aren't an object for women's pleasure, so why do the more promiscuous of them seek a new one every time they need a fix?

Ultimately the unfortunate truth is that both men and women are objects to each other. Women want a man of power ie social status and financial status. Men want women of innocence that also have sexual desirable bodies. Anything else is bitter settling and if either improves in any area of desire the settlement ends in divorce and the women or man goes for the more desirable mate.

narway wrote:

Just like a man's value isn't tied to his strength? (and that's used loosely since strength isn't just the physical state of being. ) You're either a girl making that statement or a beta male.

You think women look at a man's strength as a barometer of value? Seriously? What are you, a 5 year old on a playground?

roasted, again wrote:

Likewise, men aren't an object for women's pleasure, so why do the more promiscuous of them seek a new one every time they need a fix?

Where exactly is anyone saying that men are an object for women's pleasure? I don't know any women who think that way.

I am guessing the last few of you are either trolling hard (successfully) or the same sad little juvenile incel. This may be why so many guys on here have such terrible luck dating women.

You're playing the beta very well. Unfortunately the very wise see right through your charade. Women who have larger frequency of sexual partners are less desirable because why would anyone want to be with someone who has no decency in collecting high volumes of numbers?

This isn't some cultural Marxist Netflix film - this is reality. Women who have higher partner counts fair lower in marital/relationship success and are also less happy. Men who date women that have been with higher numbers of men are likewise less likely to be happy. Why would any self-respecting man want to be with a woman who has been with many? That's why most girls who are asked about total partner counts usually lie or bill a number far lower then what is actual.

hey kitty girl wrote:

I am guessing the last few of you are either trolling hard (successfully) or the same sad little juvenile incel. This may be why so many guys on here have such terrible luck dating women.

Are we necessarily trolling? Or are you upset that the majority of more experienced adults have beliefs that contradict your little world?

OP, the answer to your question is promiscuous women aren't considered undesirable by real, normal men. Real, normal men are comfortable and secure with women’s sexuality.

The real question what kind of pervert considers a women who is a virgin desirable? Sex with inexperienced women is terrible—any man over the age of ~23 knows this.

Thus, it can be definitely said that if your a dude over 23 and still claim to prefer a virgin over a women with experience you are either 1) a repressed homosexual and can’t tell the difference because you’d rather be banging a dude anyway 2) a pedophile 3) a virgin yourself. These are the only possibilities. Everyone agrees.

They aren’t considered undesirable wrote:

OP, the answer to your question is promiscuous women aren't considered undesirable by real, normal men. Real, normal men are comfortable and secure with women’s sexuality.

The real question what kind of pervert considers a women who is a virgin desirable? Sex with inexperienced women is terrible—any man over the age of ~23 knows this.

Thus, it can be definitely said that if your a dude over 23 and still claim to prefer a virgin over a women with experience you are either 1) a repressed homosexual and can’t tell the difference because you’d rather be banging a dude anyway 2) a pedophile 3) a virgin yourself. These are the only possibilities. Everyone agrees.

You're projecting. This is why you have the smv preferences of a homosexual man or woman.

Question for the folks here:

I saw someone allude to this a few pages ago, that the ideal girlfriend/wife material would be someone who has had a few longer term relationships from 18-25 and so sex with less than 10 guys total.

Here's the scenario: What about someone who is around 25/26, and had 3 relationships, not hookups (which were also the only sex partners)? For me, this seems like this is the ideal because it shows she values relationships and not hookups, still has a compatible sex drive and won't be inexperienced in bed, and is picky enough to have only had a few partners (which in today's age, it is easy to rack up a LOT of partners just through college).

question........ wrote:

Here's the scenario: What about someone who is around 25/26, and had 3 relationships, not hookups (which were also the only sex partners)? For me, this seems like this is the ideal because it shows she values relationships and not hookups, still has a compatible sex drive and won't be inexperienced in bed, and is picky enough to

Who the F cares? Stop analyzing this so much and find a girl you like.

I’ve seen far more slutty dudes cheat and not be able to settle down than I ever have women. Worry bout yourselves first.

Because you want to know that the woman you are with genuinely chose to be with you and isn't just using you for sex. Ironically, it doesn't seem to go both ways. Not being desirable to most women is like kryptonite to the fairer sex, even for women who have lax standards.

Tldr; the male ego exists and explains a great deal.

Who cares what century it is. People are complicated beings. Therefore partners should take time to explore eachother. That is most valuable part of partnership. It may easily take a lifetime to really get to know a person and you can still find new things, not only superficial crap that you will find out in short relationships.

On the other hand, if a women changes partner every week or cheat on partner with multiple men, she is definetely superficial, unable of deeper emotion and boring (after a while). Merry someone like that and you’ll get divorced or live like a monkey.