Today I ran 6 miles on gravel at 37.32. Then I continued at asphalt for another 1.5 mile. The asphalt part was hilly. I ran 7.5 miles in 45.59. The elevation can be seen here
https://s4.postimg.org/42qq9bnvx/elevation.png
How fast can I run a flat 10K on asphalt?
5 secs a mile
Correction, I ran 10K in 37.32.
5 secs a mile doesn't seem right.
I think it's at least 5-10 sec per km. That's 8-16 sec per mile.
gravelrunner wrote:
5 secs a mile doesn't seem right.
I think it's at least 5-10 sec per km. That's 8-16 sec per mile.
You're bullshitting yourself.
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Why all this negativity?
If you can't answer then don't. I live in a forrest rich country.
gravelrunner wrote:
5 secs a mile doesn't seem right.
I think it's at least 5-10 sec per km. That's 8-16 sec per mile.
If you have already decided what number is right, why did you ask anyone? He was giving you the objective, right answer. You can decide to ignore it, but do not refute an answer you asked for.
You are an Askhole.
I'll be glad to prove you all wrong. I will race a 10K on asphalt in september.
So 5 min/mile would mean approx. 36.58 since I ran 37.32 on gravel. This is what you guys are saying?
If I ran faster than 36.58 you guys are wrong. I will post my race with map, time and distance so you'll see I'm not a trolling like you.
Still I think 5 min/mile is conservative.
I mean 5 sec/mile.
gravelrunner wrote:
I'll be glad to prove you all wrong. I will race a 10K on asphalt in september.
So 5 min/mile would mean approx. 36.58 since I ran 37.32 on gravel. This is what you guys are saying?
If I ran faster than 36.58 you guys are wrong. I will post my race with map, time and distance so you'll see I'm not a trolling like you.
Still I think 5 min/mile is conservative.
what you run on gravel vs asphalt is not necessarily the difference the average person experiences. Empirically, gravel is about 5 seconds a mile slower. If you are losing more time than that you could be wearing bad running shoes, or you could be doing something wrong. Your september race won't correlate to your summer race due to cooler temperatures and less humidity, unless you live on the west coast or something.
It really sounds to me that you want to believe yourself to be more fit than you actually are, like someone claiming he runs 15+ secs a mile faster on a track than a dry xc course without too many hills. Maybe, but probably not.
letsracer wrote:
gravelrunner wrote:I'll be glad to prove you all wrong. I will race a 10K on asphalt in september.
So 5 min/mile would mean approx. 36.58 since I ran 37.32 on gravel. This is what you guys are saying?
If I ran faster than 36.58 you guys are wrong. I will post my race with map, time and distance so you'll see I'm not a trolling like you.
Still I think 5 min/mile is conservative.
what you run on gravel vs asphalt is not necessarily the difference the average person experiences. Empirically, gravel is about 5 seconds a mile slower. If you are losing more time than that you could be wearing bad running shoes, or you could be doing something wrong. Your september race won't correlate to your summer race due to cooler temperatures and less humidity, unless you live on the west coast or something.
It really sounds to me that you want to believe yourself to be more fit than you actually are, like someone claiming he runs 15+ secs a mile faster on a track than a dry xc course without too many hills. Maybe, but probably not.
Agreed. And I agree with 5 sec. per mile.
I live in the nordic countries so the weather will be the same in the coming 2-3 weeks. I run in Sauocony Type A6. Yesterday it was 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
I'll come back in 2-3 weeks and tell you how much faster asphalt is based on my experience.
gravelrunner wrote:
I live in the nordic countries so the weather will be the same in the coming 2-3 weeks. I run in Sauocony Type A6. Yesterday it was 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
I'll come back in 2-3 weeks and tell you how much faster asphalt is based on my experience.
Sounds like a sound experimental strategy.
Who cares.
Stupid question.
gravelrunner wrote:
I live in the nordic countries so the weather will be the same in the coming 2-3 weeks. I run in Sauocony Type A6. Yesterday it was 68 degrees Fahrenheit.
I'll come back in 2-3 weeks and tell you how much faster asphalt is based on my experience.
Was your recent run a competition? You should be at least 10-15 seconds faster in a race setting in than in a hard tempo, even on the same surface.
As far as how much time gravel is worth, it could be nearly the same as asphalt (if it is worn down to a hard packed surface) or it could be 30-60 seconds slower per mile (if it is recently laid, loose gravel that is unstable at any sort of hard effort). From the sound of it, I would guess the gravel road you were running on was somewhere in the middle.
Gravel is slippery, and therefore is much slower.
a well maintained gravel road, 2 or 3 days after grading and rainfall can be almost as fast as asphalt, maybe faster than broken asphalt.
course, loose gravel from something like a temporary construction or logging road is outrageously slow.
none of us are in a position to give you a satisfactory answer.
knox harrington wrote:
a well maintained gravel road, 2 or 3 days after grading and rainfall can be almost as fast as asphalt, maybe faster than broken asphalt.
course, loose gravel from something like a temporary construction or logging road is outrageously slow.
none of us are in a position to give you a satisfactory answer.
^^^This.
Gravel roads vary a lot from one to the next.
Who cares.
37.32 for 6 miles is a weak athlete, gravel or not.
