Why I think Faith Kipyegon is using illegal PEDs

She won XC race BAREFOOT!

Track and field is dirty. The whole Olympic Games is dirty. All sports are dirty and it's not just the Africans. Mo, Froome, Rupp and anyone else you can think of. This is real life. You wanna believe some fairytale that Americans just work harder? A 30 second PR in the 10,000 by anyone other than an American would be suspicious. Murphy medaling? If his name was Abel Hashim everyone would be screaming doper. It's like when Sosa, McGuire and Bonds were play homer in derby fo a few years and then things started to unravel everyone seemed surprised. Don't be surprise little guy, this is the way professional sports works. If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin.

Oh she's absolutely filthy. She doesn't flaunt it as obnoxiously as Didoper but that doesn't change the fact that she had EPO oozing from her eyeballs tonight.

Tired of this wrote:

Faith Kipyegon just outkicked Genzebe Dibaba to win the Women's 1500. Here's why I think she's dirty:

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2. She out kicked a runner who's under a HUGE cloud of suspicion; in fact, she totally destroyed her. If you're that much better than a likely druggie - how in hell did you get there?

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It sucks to watch a championship race and immediately think "that's BS", but that's exactly what I felt after that performance.

Jenny Simpson came within a whisker of beating that same runner under a HUGE cloud of suspicion. If you're THAT come to beating a likely druggie .....?

Grow up pal wrote:

If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin.

It's not cheating if everybody's doing it!

She was born and lived at altitude of 2600m (Keringet)
Got super blood values, according to a sports doctor, whom I know personally, because he also was my sports doctor.
Faith was coached by my friend Piet de Peuter from 2009-2019, starting at age 15. (Bram Som joined in 2015, when Faith was 21.) Piet de Peuter is a very honest person, very anti-doping. He lived in her village Keringet (even in the same house) for many years.
At age 16 she finished 4th in the junior World XC (18-19 yr), when she was 17 she
won gold in this junior race in the World XC and a few months later she ran 4:09 at 1500m.

Faith Kipyegon has won or finished second in every major championship since age 20 in 2014 and is regarded as the greatest female 1500m runner in history.

She is just one of these natural super talents.

From the Letsrun headline today: "Kipyegon’s time of 3:49.11 equates to approximately a 4:07.44 mile, which is almost a full FIVE seconds faster than the current women’s mile record set by Sifan Hassan in Monaco in 2019."

I don't know but she is faster than a lot of athletes that have been banned.

I would bet on Hurta-Klecker versus Faith Kipyegon in an 800m race. They have similar personal bests. I wonder how 2:04 800m split felt to Hurta-K today and I wonder how 2:04 800m felt to Faith K?

While i get your point, it sounds like an ideologue rather than a careful analysis. You are saying if you ran a diamond league race you would be the first athlete in decades to be clean. This is naive, and working too hard to make a point in my opinion. The drug testing system tries hard to keep up, but there will always be new effective drugs helping cheaters until the drug testing catches up. I don't think Barry Bonds should be in any record book, like Marion Jones is not in a record book for when she was known to be doping. If you were right Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa home run records would be demolished by now by cheater baseball players (after all every single player is doping right?). Remember the chinese women distance runners coached by the former East German coach? Those are still world records. Obviously drug performances. Yes I agree. But if you were right, they would be long abolished by now, since every single distance runner in the world is a dishonest cheater.

IMO your opinion is as damaging to honest athletes, as dope using athletes damage the sport.

Not even tying up on the last 200. That's not natural.

T and F are no different from bodybuilding, weightlifting and pro cycling. All utterly dependant on drugs. We have just seen that again with Kipyegon's ridiculous run.

At least no one can accuse her of coming out of "nowhere". They've seen her progression since she was a teenager winning junior races and world junior XC barefoot.

worldathletics.org

World Junior memories – Faith Kipyegon | SERIES | World Athletics

Kenya’s Faith Kipyegon looks back four years to recall her memories of striking gold in the women’s 1500m at the IAAF World Junior Championships Barcelona 2012.

Link:worldathletics.org/news/series/faith-k...

Don't be delusional and stupid. Kipyegon is probably nearly at Mu / Hodgkinson/ Moraa level if she really wants.

The only ridiculous thing here is you.

Just accept it, Faith is amazing, you are irrelevant.

Personal attacks do not make anyone believe you are intelligent.

You are saying Faith Kipyegon is a secret elite 800m athlete? You are wrong.

You are mistaken if you believe F K is a secret 1:55 800m athlete.

All dopers are amazing. That's what doping does.

Unfortunately there was no drug testing in MLB in Bonds/Sosa/McGwire's day so no proof of them doping outside of outright admissions by them.

I find it suspicious that an athlete that only runs around 1:58 for the 800 can run 2:02 pace for the whole 1500.

Let’s assume that the Chinese and Eastern Bloc records were the results of doping – which pretty much everyone believes. Now assume by some miracle or super-technology that after these records were set there were only clean athletes competing. It was impossible for anyone to ever dope again. Would those records would stand forever? Or would they eventually be eclipsed by more talented athletes with superior training and equipment (e.g., shoes, etc.), who also happened to be clean?

There is almost always constant improvement in sports. Three Americans ran sub-12:57 yesterday and American-raised Grijalva ran 12:52. Four HS kids also ran under 4 minutes in one race yesterday and over 100 high schoolers have broken 9 this year. There are HS runners today faster than Zatopek, one of the all-time greats.

Do I think there is doping is track today? Yes. Do I think Faith Kipyegon is doping? I have no idea. We do know that she is extraordinarily talented. And we knew from the time she won a World XC title as a barefoot 17-year old girl that she was special. I think if Faith raced the top Chinese runners from the 90s in a race where everyone was clean she would destroy them.