Does anyone know how much the IAAF spends on World Youth and Juniors? With the age cheating, should it cancelled

rojo wrote:

Does anyone know how much the IAAF spends on the meets? Not much much the local organizing committee spends but how much does the IAAF actually spend?

Not much much do rojo know English.

They should eliminate the meet. We should also get rid of high-school national meets given the slew of age cheating Oregon recruits: LV, grampa ches, Maton, etc..

Even if a 24 year old Ethiopian wins the gold, its still a valuable experience for junior runners to have. Dealing with the pressure of international travel, competing against the top talent of their generation, learning to compete through rounds, etc is all valuable for when those juniors go on to become Olympians.

All of this is of course ignoring your question about the costs. My question is, where does the IAAF get the money for international meets like this?

"We shall treat the matter with the same seriousness as doping," (Diack, 2006)

Err... well, if that's true, it should be commensurate to the anti-doping budget?!

http://espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=trackandfield&id=2545396

rojo wrote:

I'm working on our Week That Was - weekly recap - and was talking about the age cheating at World Youths and Juniors. Given the cheating, I was wondering if the meets should be canceled?

Does anyone know how much the IAAF spends on the meets? Not much much the local organizing committee spends but how much does the IAAF actually spend?

I don't know for certain, but I don't think the IAAF spends much on these meets. I would not be surprised if they made money off of the age meets. I know the local organizing committee has to put up money to host these meets, basically they are paying the IAAF to host these meets. In term of age cheating, I am tired of talking about it and there are times where I think the U.S. should not participate. Even when it is obvious, as in an athlete competing in WJrs twice at the same age 18. Once for Kenya and then again 2 years later for an AE country. Being a certain age is the cornerstone of these meets and being able to produce verifiable proof of age should be an absolute requirement.

It's hard to get IAAF budget info (?!), but at least in comparable contexts, such as chess (FIDE), the costs are all for the local organizers. For youth champs there is no FIDE overhead beyond the application fee and inevitable backroom graft. For something like the world chess championship events or their biennial olympiad, FIDE will get something like a 20% fee for the rights to host (for the goodwill of their name I guess). The local organizers themselves probably (can) make money in youth chess, as parents (and national feds) are too willing to pay inflated amounts.

There was a recent article about how "lucrative" hosting chess events (both youth/junior, and now senior) can be. http://en.chessbase.com/post/seniors-the-bill-please

In the past the European Junior and World Championships have been criticised as being a lucrative business for those who took part in organising them. The seniors too, gained the impression, that the organisers see them als willing donators.

If you look at their calendar, they have: the Youth U-16 Olympiad (teams) this month (Slovakia), the U-20 next month (India), the U-18/U-16/U-14 individual championships in Sept, then the U-12/U-10/U-8 in Oct, the seniors in Nov, the "world schools" (universities?) in Dec. There are similar "European" events to extract money.

One French "youth" organizer a decade ago ended up taking the chess guys to the CAS when they said his conditions were so bad that they would never do business with him again (he lost in the end, the right to contract freely is enshrined in Swiss law).

rojo wrote:

I'm working on our Week That Was - weekly recap - and was talking about the age cheating at World Youths and Juniors. Given the cheating, I was wondering if the meets should be canceled?

Does anyone know how much the IAAF spends on the meets? Not much much the local organizing committee spends but how much does the IAAF actually spend?

Why in the world would you want to get rid of one of the best ways to introduce our up and coming athletes to world class comp? I believe it would def be a baby out with the bath water type of solution to xcl the meet(s)

article on the homepage seems to say the US crushed at one of these events. Are the Americans age cheating?

Seriousnessly? wrote:

"We shall treat the matter with the same seriousness as doping," (Diack, 2006)

Err... well, if that's true, it should be commensurate to the anti-doping budget?!

http://espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=trackandfield&id=2545396

Nice quote. Apparently he meant "we'll ignore it as much as possible, and otherwise cover it up for a small fee."

Rojo,

Please post all the evidence of age cheating among competitors at this year's event.

Thanks.

Taresa Tolosa is already going bald and his IAAF profile says he is 18

http://media.aws.iaaf.org/media/LargeL/d71d8d5f-4024-48af-b6ce-2b5ad0c1849f.jpg?v=401181442

We will know years from now by how much he progresses.

I remember a few years back when Mageka of Kenya posted 3:35 in the 1500m and his IAAF profile said he was 15. Where is he now?