800m Potential/Prediction based off 4:19 mile

Hard to tell. I can't tell if he has the pure speed for an 800m without first seeing him. If he is a soccer player, though, he probably has decent foot speed. I wouldn't be surprised if he drops a low 1:50. Especially if he goes out in a mile around 2:00.

If anything, imagine if he went out around 2:04-5 instead. He'd be a sub 4:14 miler.

That's a talented runner.

D1onstreetD3insheets wrote:

Hard to tell. I can't tell if he has the pure speed for an 800m without first seeing him. If he is a soccer player, though, he probably has decent foot speed. I wouldn't be surprised if he drops a low 1:50. Especially if he goes out in a mile around 2:00.

If anything, imagine if he went out around 2:04-5 instead. He'd be a sub 4:14 miler.

That's a talented runner.

He definitely is. I've asked him how in the world he's so good at running when he's never ran track or XC and he said "when you run up and down a field for 90 minutes for 12 years you get pretty damn good at it". He has the biggest upper body for a runner I've ever seen. When I asked him about going out in 2:00 for the mile, he said it felt like he was all out sprinting it, which tells me his 800m PR is probably closer to 1:55 then 1:50. When you say a low 1:50, do you mean a 1:50.xx for a 1:51-1:54?

All I can think about is your potential 4x8. From what I can see, 7:30-7:35 potential if all of the team has a good day? I'm jealous, my team will be trying to break 7:55 lol

Where does he run these miles? In open track races, or does he just time trial them with his dad? Sounds a little fishy to me.

I coached such a kid a few years ago. Real athlete, soccer was his main sport.

First year doing track, went 1:54 and 4:20.

7:30-7:35 is a big stretch. I'm gonna say probably 7:40-7:45. We all have to average a 1:56.35 for the state record of 7:45.40. We can do it, the other 3 guys just need to do their part because I know I'm doing the best I can. I improved my 800 last season by 13 seconds (ran 2:00) and this year I'm doing XC for the first time and am looking to run a 1:55. And btw 7:55 is still pretty damn good. That would've won state this year in Arizona.

Bonkers wrote:

Where does he run these miles? In open track races, or does he just time trial them with his dad? Sounds a little fishy to me.

Runs them on the track with his dad timing the splits. But he has ran them in PE against guys who can run in the high 4:30's and he's gone 4:27 doing that. He needs to be careful though. He was out running in 110 degree heat last month and went to the hospital because he collapsed and had a heart attack.

I mean more so around 1:51-1:54. Though, I could be wrong. Though soccer does get one in to pretty great shape, it doesn't always necessarily get you in to the best track shape. Cross country running allows an individual to develop a strong base needed before going in to a track season. Soccer does that to an extent, but more so in spurts. the first year I stopped doing soccer and focused on track in high school I dropped from a 4:38 to a mid 4:20 mile, then from a 2:03 800m to a 1:53. I figure the same would happen to this newer runner on your team. The cross country base just helps so much more than soccer did.

Husky2018 wrote:

Bonkers wrote:

Where does he run these miles? In open track races, or does he just time trial them with his dad? Sounds a little fishy to me.

Runs them on the track with his dad timing the splits. But he has ran them in PE against guys who can run in the high 4:30's and he's gone 4:27 doing that. He needs to be careful though. He was out running in 110 degree heat last month and went to the hospital because he collapsed and had a heart attack.

Weirdest troll thread ever. Having a fictitious 17 year old have a heart attack is just strange.

Bonkers wrote:

Weirdest troll thread ever. Having a fictitious 17 year old have a heart attack is just strange.

You'd be surprised about Arizona weather in the summer. We've had people die just year just hiking at 9:00 in the morning. It's dangerous.

That's a talented runner.[/quote]

I mean more so around 1:51-1:54. Though, I could be wrong. Though soccer does get one in to pretty great shape, it doesn't always necessarily get you in to the best track shape. Cross country running allows an individual to develop a strong base needed before going in to a track season. Soccer does that to an extent, but more so in spurts. the first year I stopped doing soccer and focused on track in high school I dropped from a 4:38 to a mid 4:20 mile, then from a 2:03 800m to a 1:53. I figure the same would happen to this newer runner on your team. The cross country base just helps so much more than soccer did.[/quote]

He's still playing soccer in the winter. Our soccer team won state and he has a good shot at being on the All-Arizona team. He was close sophomore year and last year he hot hurt and only played 3 games. The other guy on our 4x8 that runs a 2:01 is also a soccer player and last year was his first year doing track. With XC and training this year, I'm hoping he can be around 1:57-1:58. He ran a 55.xx first lap but couldn't finish the race, so hopefully XC will make that second lap better. I was a 56 1:03 guy. My 3rd 200 was poor, so XC will help me a lot with that as well.