Why does Brooks sign ex Nike people?

It's last stop for has beens

Brooks is like the Oakland Raiders or New York Knicks of running. Careers go there to die.

brooks likes to sign the everyman. A d3 champ like Leer embodies that. We can believe he's a working class hero who succeeds through hard work. Nike represents the top technology and training methodology. Leer has won a national championship or two and been close a few times, but never a world beater. So he had a bad year, doesn't mean he won't run well next year. Brooks takes chances on athletes.

They signed Symmonds because he was national champ. They're looking to become known in the spike market, not just as a marathon shoe company.

Wanna be like wrote:

Welcome aboard Will Leer. I'm sure that you can join Nick Symmonds and Danny Mackey I tne daily bashing of the Swoosh.

Leer was wearing Nike spikes in his heat, wth ?

He has NOT signed with Brooks.... Just needed some gear for the trials...

Firings start today.

They like the extra 100 shoes it helps them sell.

Wanna be like wrote:

Welcome aboard Will Leer. I'm sure that you can join Nick Symmonds and Danny Mackey I tne daily bashing of the Swoosh.

When did Brooks sign him? On Sunday I saw Leer wearing Nike spikes and the results show him as unattached. My guess is he was just wearing a kit.

Mackey coaches 2 Nike athletes (one made the Olympics the other is popular on social media), I doubt he hands out uniforms, and I never see him bash Nike...only people affiliated with Nike, but no one likes Alberto and Capriotti.

The kit probably came from Brooks or he got it from his buddy Symmonds.

Nike owns 90% of the sport so every brand signs ex Nike athletes unless they sign them out of college. The only 2 ex Nike athletes I see on the Beasts are Ulrey and Symmonds. Both were worth a risk for a start-up team like the Beasts when they had contracts up IMO.

Will Leer is plain and simple a bad investment. The guy has put much of any good result in years. Why would you pay money for a guy with skinny legs and long hair?

Brooks got a gem with Izaic Yorks and that penn state guy though. Future star.

heyo wrote:

Will Leer is plain and simple a bad investment. The guy has put much of any good result in years. Why would you pay money for a guy with skinny legs and long hair?

Brooks got a gem with Izaic Yorks and that penn state guy though. Future star.

Every runner is a bad investment. Plus size models with an Instagram following will sell more shoes.

heyo wrote:

Brooks got a gem with Izaic Yorks and that penn state guy though. Future star.

Truth...as a whole I think Brooks is actually on the right track (no pun intended). From what I have heard, the Beasts team meets with Brooks HQ regularly - as an athlete, I would want a company that listens to me, pays me well, and gives me a good environment to train in. Brooks is doing all three for those guys.

Don't forget Shaquille Walker too! If those guys keep progressing and manage to stay healthy the Brooks group might actually be taken seriously at the next Olympic trials.

redux wrote:

They're like an abused single mom--cheap, easy, broken, and easy to manipulate.

Could be said of the ideal Brooks customer as well haha.

ZING! hatehatehatehatehate

themanontherun wrote:

redux wrote:

They're like an abused single mom--cheap, easy, broken, and easy to manipulate.

Could be said of the ideal Brooks customer as well haha.

Why do any shoe companies sponsor any track athletes?

Anyone going to Danny Mackey is a bad investment.

All his runners ran poorly at the trials. Just wait till Shaq walker runs 146 next year and Yorks runs 3:39.

It's akin to buying a used car.

heyo wrote:

Why would you pay money for a guy with skinny legs and long hair?

You talking about Pre?

In fairness that is the first time the Beasts have not run well at a US Championships (though they are only 3 years in).

My guess is something unique Mackey had not dealt with before happened this year. It could be a staff hire, could be team issues.

What is odd for the Beasts is they had injuries, no one pays attention to that with them but they never had key injuries, though they only have 4 truly good athletes IMO, the rest are projects so there is not much to pay attention to. This year Symmonds, Loxsom, and Katie Mackey all had significant injuries. I do not see Mackey changing programming dramatically because I heard him present in Eugene, he is almost too patient and logical in the workouts he gives them. And he referred to some team problems in his talk....this was during the Trials, almost like he knew they were in trouble before coming in.

I used to coach one of his athletes (this athlete had never gotten hurt with Mackey from the start, but got hurt this year). He seems too smart to make that obvious mistake and the progression the first 2 years was too gradual and positive.

He's a very good coach but young. Typically it is something external (management) that a younger coach gets negatively impacted by where an veteran coach would bust heads. Rowland is known for being a hard ass and cutting athletes. Remember he fired that assistant coach and cut Lauren Johnson right after Worlds? Jerry does not even go to most practices but his athletes get it done when it counts.

Time for Mackey remember 2016 and get tougher. I hope they fire and/or cut the problems and we see a quick turnaround in 2017 because I like that group.