5:16 mile at 7000 would be how fast at sea level?
5:16 mile at 7000 would be how fast at sea level?
Average Speed does not change. Speed = total distance/ total time
Download the official NCAA Altitude Converter under Updates:
http://www.ncaa.org/championships/playing-rules/cross-country-and-track-and-field-rules-competition
Using the Air Force Academy for altitude (6981 according to the converter) results in a 5:04.24
You can download the NCAA Rules Book there also if interested
That's equivalent to an altitude adjusted, wind adjusted, weight adjusted and age graded 3:43.12 mile.
Your welcome.
lkj wrote:
5:16 mile at 7000 would be how fast at sea level?
Exactly the same as a 5:16 mile at 2133.6m. If you want that in football fields or high school tracks, you'll have to ask Larry.
Air Force is at 7258...maybe 7100 at the actual track. The mile conversion was 8.5-9.5 seconds if I remember correctly...
6994 ft right at the AF Academy track oval per Big Gold Book. But who cares? Go to sea level and run a mile there (admittedly a long drive from there). Conversions can be bogus.
I refuse to change my religion simply because you ran a mile at altitude.
I need much more than that, like maybe seeing your face on a piece of toast or on a dog's ass.
Bingo!
Did he run the tangents and get a bad start with poor pacers as well?
This is really good news.
I am now the 'real' world record holder in the 'real' mile (This means I am the 'real' non-metric miler world record holder!!!) !!!
Oh yea.
lkj wrote:
5:16 mile at 7000 would be how fast at sea level?
altitude conversion is a joke. Conversion should be different for an altitude adjusted (NAU) athlete versus a non-altitude adjusted (ASU) athlete.
Keino ran 3:34.9 @ 7,000 feet after 5 other races in short proximity. What is his conversion.
7000 feet is just under a mile and a third.
I'd probably log it as just one mile, but if your log is more precise, you can use 1.3 or 1 and 1/3 if rounding up doesn't bother you.
I live at 6,000 ft and ran a hard mile recently at 8,000 ft and then at sea level. The difference was ONE second at sea level. I actually felt no different.
rjm33 wrote:
Bingo!
Did he run the tangents and get a bad start with poor pacers as well?
This is really good news.
I am now the 'real' world record holder in the 'real' mile (This means I am the 'real' non-metric miler world record holder!!!) !!!
Oh yea.
I am the trans trans world trans continental record holder.
ColoradoSprings61701 wrote:
I live at 6,000 ft and ran a hard mile recently at 8,000 ft and then at sea level. The difference was ONE second at sea level. I actually felt no different.
How do you know you were in the same condition?
caIculo wrote:
That's equivalent to an altitude adjusted, wind adjusted, weight adjusted and age graded 3:43.12 mile.
Your welcome.
10/10. Clever using that username.
addressing the OP, there is no conversion for altitude. If you've lived in altitude for a while, you're going to run faster than if you have been there for a day- just look at the Kenyans- using an altitude calculator Kenyans who don't even end up making the team are capable of world record caliber times. Some people adjust to altitude better and some worse-especially depending on how long they have been at altitude. Basically what I'm saying is a 5:16 at altitude is worth a 5:16 at altitude. You can't mix apples and oranges.
I made an app that replicates NCAA conversions.
The NCAA only does conversions for tracks over 3000 feet altitude and they might be adjusting those track altitudes based on the current barometric pressure at a race but ignoring current air pressure the calculator *should* be within 1/100th of a second typically.
Please give feedback and tell me if it is helpful!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/race-time-altitude-conversion/id1375199927?mt=8
And let's not forget density altitude - which is an "adjusted" altitude based on ambient air temp - I fly airplanes and density altitude has a direct effect on how the aircraft will fly, so I'm pretty sure if has an effect on the runner as well. The barometric pressure won't effect the runner too much - let's say you're in Denver and the barometric pressure is 29.25, all that means is if you were to dig a hole down to sea level and measure the pressure at the bottom of the hole, the pressure would be 29.25 but the pressure in Denver (top of the hole) would be only 24 high/25 low - the reason pilots need to know the barometric pressure is that's what you set the altimeter to and the needle will literally move to the correct altitude reading, but in many cases we're talking 50/100/150 feet, not enough to change a runners performance, but enough to avoid hitting the mountain top in the airplane! But the pilot needs to know density altitude as well, which is not registered on the altimeter, but is a converted factor. DA has a profound effect on the performance of the airplane, and although I don't have a runner science lab, I'm willing to bet DA effects the runner as well. Something to look into - not many people talk about - it may be the "missing link" in the effect of altitude on the runner motif.
ColoradoSprings61701 wrote:
I live at 6,000 ft and ran a hard mile recently at 8,000 ft and then at sea level. The difference was ONE second at sea level. I actually felt no different.
Really? Not even a little bit, by being near the seashore? Many people report feelings of relaxation and well-being when they are in such places.
Daniels calculator puts it at 4:59. I assume that means if you normally live/train at sea level, then run a 5:16 mile at 7000 ft, it's equivalent quality to 4:59.