Guess what? They've done it again. Officials needlessly put 13 people into men's 1500 final without a DQ!!

Much easier than replacing scratches. They'd actually have to dial a phone to do that!

McNamara did impede Wheating, but since Wheating is through on time, it seems to be a non-issue. I have no problem if McNamara is DQ'd which would allow Gregorek into the final. However, I agree that it makes no sense to allow both McNamara and Gregorek to run the final.

It's unfortunate that these stories, which are actually important, get lost amidst the dozens of vapid athlete interviews on this site.

They should just put all 24 semi finalists into the final so no one's feelings get hurt.

Second Coming wrote:

It's unfortunate that these stories, which are actually important, get lost amidst the dozens of vapid athlete interviews on this site.

There have been some good interviews from trials. It's good to hear from the new kids like McLaughlin. And the Leer interview was fascinating.

Also, not sure how important it is that they let an extra runner into the final for no reason. But I'd like to hear the story about which Nike operatives were involved in the back-room negotiations.

Star wrote:

They should just put all 24 semi finalists into the final so no one's feelings get hurt.

Yeah they can call it the Millennial final! Everyone gets a trophy and/or a participation medal so no one gets offended. No running fast either, that's not fair. They can have Bernie Sanders oversee the event and guarantee equality of outcome.

not sure if you're trolling or serious here, but it really doesn't matter. these "jokes" aren't funny. please stop.

Why do I get the feeling that if they keep McNamara and told Gregorek that he was out, you'd be up in arms.

The headline wold be 'Guess what? They've done it again. Officials needlessly tell runner he's in the final then take it away"

Then you'd complain how USATF what a joke because they told a runner he was in on time, only to tell him that he really didn't make it because a DQ was overturned.

Then you'd got on to tell how important it is for runner to get trial experience and Gregorek really deserved to be in a 13-person final and should have to suffer because of a DQ that was overturned.

Have I got this pretty much correct?

They should never have made a ruling before knowing what they were doing.

Raise the flag, but don't rule on it too quick.

Yes, telling Gregorek he was in and then going to tell him he is out would cause problems.

So don't tell him he's in right away.

J Mac bumped Wheating but Wheating still got through and none of that hindered Gregorek.

It should take 5 seconds to rule it as no foul and move on with the results as is.

13 on the line isn't too bad but it isn't helpful.

In 96 one shove put two extra people into the final and they had 14 on the line.

The final was pretty chaotic and the best runner, Holman, didn't do well in the crowd. (He should have just lead in a fast pace).

come on wrote:

not sure if you're trolling or serious here, but it really doesn't matter. these "jokes" aren't funny. please stop.

They are funny. Not sorry that they violate your safe space

Its much more sad than funny.

millennials amarite? wrote:

Yeah they can call it the Millennial final! Everyone gets a trophy and/or a participation medal so no one gets offended. No running fast either, that's not fair. They can have Bernie Sanders oversee the event and guarantee equality of outcome.

Every single person entered in the 1500 is a Millennial, so it's already the Millennial final. You idiot.

millennials amarite? wrote:

Star wrote:

They should just put all 24 semi finalists into the final so no one's feelings get hurt.

Yeah they can call it the Millennial final! Everyone gets a trophy and/or a participation medal so no one gets offended. No running fast either, that's not fair. They can have Bernie Sanders oversee the event and guarantee equality of outcome.

And who were the idiots who raised the millennial generation and made sure they all got their trophy? You're right none of the blame lies with the parents.

LetsRun.com wrote:

The big news in our mind is the idiotic decision by the officials to put 13 in the final which makes ZERO sense. Watch it for yourself and decide at the 3:09 mark here:

There are two idiotic decisions here:

1. DQing McNamara in the first place for minor contact.

2. Your decision to be outraged about minor stuff. The poster who mentioned you'd be outraged at USATF if they had not let Gregorek into the final after first telling him he was in was spot on.

Peekachew wrote:

Why do I get the feeling that if they keep McNamara and told Gregorek that he was out, you'd be up in arms.

The headline wold be 'Guess what? They've done it again. Officials needlessly tell runner he's in the final then take it away"

Then you'd complain how USATF what a joke because they told a runner he was in on time, only to tell him that he really didn't make it because a DQ was overturned.

Then you'd got on to tell how important it is for runner to get trial experience and Gregorek really deserved to be in a 13-person final and should have to suffer because of a DQ that was overturned.

Have I got this pretty much correct?

This

Star wrote:

They should never have made a ruling before knowing what they were doing.

Raise the flag, but don't rule on it too quick.

Yes, telling Gregorek he was in and then going to tell him he is out would cause problems.

So don't tell him he's in right away.

J Mac bumped Wheating but Wheating still got through and none of that hindered Gregorek.

It should take 5 seconds to rule it as no foul and move on with the results as is.

13 on the line isn't too bad but it isn't helpful.

In 96 one shove put two extra people into the final and they had 14 on the line.

The final was pretty chaotic and the best runner, Holman, didn't do well in the crowd. (He should have just lead in a fast pace).

And also this

Anyone remember 2008 Women's 800m final? Four women fall in the semi (2 are Nike), protests fly and bing, bang, bong we have 12 women in the final. For an Olympic Trials 800 final that was ridiculous! Remember this: The rule is there are no rules. What's happened in the men's 1500 is no shocker.

Didn't Gregorek go to Oregon for a fifth year? Surprised that hasn't been mentioned yet...they love throwing people like him and Acosta into the finals.

Did nobody notice what ACTUALLY happened in the race?

JMAC actually cut off Dorian Ulrey (who was on his outside), which caused JMAC to stumble into Andrew Wheating. I agree the fouls were not egregious, but if anything, it seems that Dorian Ulrey would have a case to be let into the final rather than Gregorek.