Cain

Too early to tell. She ran...4:12.

She is a neat young lady,

But she has gotten heavy, and slow.

She will do good in the world.

But it won't be in track and field.

Whatever it is likely more than you, track or otherwise.

ackack wrote:

Too early to tell. She ran...4:12.

As did the entire field who qualified. How fast did you want her to run?

I agree, she showed big signs of improvement. With such a strong field, it would be a miracle for her to go to Rio but I definitely think we'll be seeing her in years to come.

For those saying she's chubby, get a life and get off your @ss and go for a walk.

Even if she comes in dead last in the final, she can say that she is one of the top twelve 1500m runners in the country. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

1500 final results will be Simpson, Martinez, Uceny, Rowbury, Eccleston,

Efraimson, Grunewald, Brown, Vaughn, Cain, Sutherland, Johnson

JoggingMaster wrote:

For those saying she's chubby, get a life . . .

She does look soft.

I wonder, though, how many of those girls and women who are skinny got there with questionable eating. Judging by the frequency of stress fractures (as one indicator) among the elite females, everyone is pushing the limits for athletic success--which is a different animal from overall health.

But then top athletes in all sports take risks to perform their best.

Oh, you are the worst kind of person.

Cain looks to be the same weight as she did when killing it a few years ago. The only differences I notice are improved arm action but less aggression on the track. She might become more assertive as her confidence improves. I don't see her making the team but it wouldn't shock me if she did. It does not appear that she has kicked all out yet in the two preliminary rounds. In fact, she has conserved energy very well.

She used to have a natural arm action.

But now it is forced, not as bad as it was a year ago, but not as good as it was.

Nothing wrong with having some normal fat on you most of the time, BUT for championship and olympic racing you must engineer your body fat down to almost nothing in order to run fast.

Very precise dieting is necessary to drop all the fat and even some lean mass, while still hitting that sweet spot where you still maintain necessary strength and speed but have dropped 5, 10, or 20 pounds of unnecessary mass.

If you are in the 5k final, a 5 lb difference in weight can be monumental--medal or no medal, or make the final or dont make final.

A 10 lb difference basically moves you from front pack to rear pack.

Almost gaunt and extremely cut is what wins.

it's a semi wrote:

ackack wrote:

Too early to tell. She ran...4:12.

As did the entire field who qualified. How fast did you want her to run?

You missed the point. We don't know how close she was to her limit. If MC plus other qualifiers had run 4:00 then we could say yes, she's back!

reg wrote:

Almost gaunt and extremely cut is what wins.

gaunt is on display

view the gabe grunewald--speaking of skeletal--interview for an (inadvertent) admission of someone who messed up her pre-race nutrition.

Mary Cain was done a couple of years ago. You can't reheat meat and expect a good result.

yep that chick is on the Razor's edge in many ways

mealtime wrote:

reg wrote:

Almost gaunt and extremely cut is what wins.

gaunt is on display

view the gabe grunewald--speaking of skeletal--interview for an (inadvertent) admission of someone who messed up her pre-race nutrition.

Nothing wrong with having some normal fat on you most of the time, BUT for championship and olympic racing you must engineer your body fat down to almost nothing in order to run fast.

Very precise dieting is necessary to drop all the fat and even some lean mass, while still hitting that sweet spot where you still maintain necessary strength and speed but have dropped 5, 10, or 20 pounds of unnecessary mass.

If you are in the 5k final, a 5 lb difference in weight can be monumental--medal or no medal, or make the final or dont make final.

A 10 lb difference basically moves you from front pack to rear pack.

Almost gaunt and extremely cut is what wins.[/quote]

Yes, MEN can get their body fat to very low levels-single digit body fat%. However, women NEED sufficient body fat for their body to ensure regular menstruation occurs.

reg wrote:

If you are in the 5k final, a 5 lb difference in weight can be monumental--medal or no medal, or make the final or dont make final.

A 10 lb difference basically moves you from front pack to rear pack.

It's worse than that, actually. Two pounds can be the difference between medaling or not. Five pounds could be the difference from front the back of the pack. Ten pounds could be the difference between an Olympic medalist and someone who didn't qualify for the trials.

she needs to move away from the 1500......5k is where she will end up