Did the standard order used to be different than the current 1200/400/800/mile?
I seem to remember it being 880/440/1320/mile in the olden days. I think it was changed from the 800/880 going first to the 1320 going first to open the race up more before the first exchange. Is that true? Is so, what year did it change?
I remember times when I ran in high school in the 90s different meets running it in different orders. Was always important to check so you didn't end up on the wrong leg. I would assume that means there was a precedent somewhere of it having been run in a different order.
To my knowledge, there still is no "official" order for the DMR at the high school level. Over the last 10 years, I have noticed, with the increased awareness of post-season national meets, that local high school invitationals have more consistently used the same order as the National meets.
The 3 lap leg was always first when I ran it, just like it currently is. That was a long time ago, too.
In the 80s it was 8-4-12-16
The Original Lyndon LaRouche wrote:
In the 80s it was 8-4-12-16
Not where I ran.
Maybe the lesson is that there was not a consistent order...
When I ran it was 12-4-8-16 in indoor track.
Then 8-4-12-16 in outdoor track.
The Original Lyndon LaRouche wrote:
In the 80s it was 8-4-12-16
Not so, as Colonial relays ran it 1200, 400, 800, 1600 or imperial distance. Penn ran it 8-4-12-16 back then and I think into the early 90's.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
The Original Lyndon LaRouche wrote:In the 80s it was 8-4-12-16
Not where I ran.
Maybe the lesson is that there was not a consistent order...
Where did you run then? not the NCAA's or anywhere else that mattered for sure.
In the decades preceding the mid 80s is was 800-400-1200-1600. Maybe someone else can offer the exact year of the change?
malmo wrote:
Where did you run then? not the NCAA's or anywhere else that mattered for sure.
Running doesn't "matter" regardless of where or at what level it is done.
The 1994 NCAA indoor meet ran it 8-4-12-16.
get over yourself wrote:
malmo wrote:Where did you run then? not the NCAA's or anywhere else that mattered for sure.
Running doesn't "matter" regardless of where or at what level it is done.
It certainly matters. Mr Obvious says that the order wasn't 8-4-12-16 where he ran. So in order to ascertain why more information is needed. Where I ran the order was always 8-4-12-16. Division 1, Penn Relays, etc. Obviously there was an official switch at some point, or perhaps Division III or JuCo ran some other order? There is, I'm sure, some coach, or rabid track fan out there that probably can fill in the details?
But without any additional commentary from Mr Obvious his statement "not where I ran" is of little value in this conversation.
Oh, but in high school in California in the late 80s it was 12-4-8-16. Seems like there is both a dependence on time and place.
Should be pretty simple to verify when the NCAA indoor meet switched the order (also Penn Relays, for that matter).
At least once (wanna say like '76)at the Penn Relays for the HS boys DMR they ran 1300- 400 - 800 - 1500
I didn't run at NCAAs or at Penn Relays. I did run meets that mattered. In the mid-late 80s, the DMR was always run 1200/400/800/1600.
Perhaps both time and place mattered and the lesson is that there was not a standard order.
What if each team could choose their own order? It would be fun to see a 400 runner chasing a miler at the end
In the NYC area the CHSAA (Catholic HS) run a frosh/soph DMR of 800 - 200- 400 - 1600. So they take the 2nd longest leg and replace it with a 200.
The walls are thin wrote:
In the NYC area the CHSAA (Catholic HS) run a frosh/soph DMR of 800 - 200- 400 - 1600. So they take the 2nd longest leg and replace it with a 200.
Seems kind of pointless to throw a 200 into the relay. It's such a small portion of the total time that it's basically irrelevant. You could put 1996 Michael Johnson on the 200m leg, and your team would not be appreciably better than it would be with your top sprinter in the same spot.
Was this indoors?
What years are you referring to.
I remember the 440-220-220-880.
malmo wrote:
get over yourself wrote:Running doesn't "matter" regardless of where or at what level it is done.
It certainly matters. Mr Obvious says that the order wasn't 8-4-12-16 where he ran. So in order to ascertain why more information is needed. Where I ran the order was always 8-4-12-16. Division 1, Penn Relays, etc. Obviously there was an official switch at some point, or perhaps Division III or JuCo ran some other order? There is, I'm sure, some coach, or rabid track fan out there that probably can fill in the details?
But without any additional commentary from Mr Obvious his statement "not where I ran" is of little value in this conversation.
As I mentioned, the exception was Colonial Relays, as our leadoff was a very good 800 runner (sub 1:48) who thought, of course he was running 800, as we did, putting him on the lead leg. After the first lap, he took off, opening up a 200 meter lead, or so, only to come down the homestretch and find the lap counter saying 1 to go. We thought he had made a mistake (lap counter), but alas, we and our runner made the mistake. End result is his third lap was not pretty. Weeks later at Penn the 800 leg was first, as it had been.