Justin Gatlin - 2x Convicted Drug Cheat Now A Hero

Wah wah wah. Elites dope. Wah Wah. If the sport were clean, it would be boring. They all dope. Some get caught. Some don't. If you're not dopin, you're not tryin.

Who really gives a damn to be honest about it? Big business cheats on their taxes, look at the political world, look at the police. Where are these peple who never cheat or lie and are squeaky clean, yep, they don't exist. Who does this internet thing while at work, that's stealing $$$$ right there, you aren't being paid to surf the net.

And, if they are all cheating then we still have a level plaing field.

So tired of people acting as if ...OH MY GOD A DRUG CHEAT.......sheesh~~~

Clavin Von Zack wrote:

Who really gives a damn to be honest about it? Big business cheats on their taxes, look at the political world, look at the police. Where are these peple who never cheat or lie and are squeaky clean, yep, they don't exist. Who does this internet thing while at work, that's stealing $$$$ right there, you aren't being paid to surf the net.

And, if they are all cheating then we still have a level plaing field.

So tired of people acting as if ...OH MY GOD A DRUG CHEAT.......sheesh~~~

And some people are tired of your apathetic attitude, dude. You sound like a cheater. Further, having a level playing field is not the only issue: why should people need to take elevated risks to compete? .......sheesh~~~

Great point! Track and Field Champions closely resemble the methods and ways of the Tycoons of Wall Street! F%ck integrity ~ WIN AT ALL COSTS, MAKE YOUR SPONSOR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No records no interest. Baseball was at its most popular when the home runs were flying out of the parks. When they cracked down, so did attendance. Track thrives on "faster, higher, stronger." Humans are not suddenly evolving overnight into Ãœber Mensch's. So what if they all end up with cancer or heart disease sooner than later. They are our gladiators, these athletes, and we must be "entertained."

Rupp is a doper too don't you think?

Cheating Cheetahs wrote:

No records no interest.

Without doping, no sprinter would be running sub 10, no 1500's under 3:35, no marathons under 2:10.

The real doping happened in the 50's and 60's when they weren't testing in competition, and it took a long time for steroids to finally exceed the standard set during that era. Until track comes clean with itself and the world about the amphetamines and wipes those records off the books, all records will require dope.

There was doping before then too, of course. Cocaine, opiates. They just didn't have the bennies yet.

'He was unsuccessful though he stated that he believed that he had all the necessary skills and that the only reason he did not make the team was because coaches viewed him as a "Track guy."'

Ever heard of Bob Hayes

Bad Wigins wrote:

Cheating Cheetahs wrote:

No records no interest.

Without doping, no sprinter would be running sub 10, no 1500's under 3:35, no marathons under 2:10.

The real doping happened in the 50's and 60's when they weren't testing in competition, and it took a long time for steroids to finally exceed the standard set during that era. Until track comes clean with itself and the world about the amphetamines and wipes those records off the books, all records will require dope.

There was doping before then too, of course. Cocaine, opiates. They just didn't have the bennies yet.

3:35? Guess Symmonds was doping then. Stupid hypocrite.

Also Manzano, Spivey, Scott, Andrews.

Webb must have been doping in high school to get so close to the unbreakable 3:35 barrier at 18!

His ban in 2001 was for his legally prescribed ADD meds. He didn't go through the TUE/declaration properly for the US Juniors. After winning his event(s) (can't remember for sure but I seem to remember it being the hurdles) he came back positive. After his initial 2 year ban, he provided his documentation to the authorities it was knocked back to 1 year (essentially nothing given he was still a college kid under the NCAAs rules).

Calling him a 2x doper for this is petty and muckraking.

Have a close friend with a PR of sub-9.9 whom I can vouch for almost completely. Clean sub-10 is very possible. The truth is that while doping does happen, it is hard to get away with, and most who do are caught eventually--that's why some of the biggest and most important names in the sport (Gatlin, Powell, Jones, Montgomery, Gay, B. Johnson, etc.) have gone down.

PoisonIvy wrote:

His ban in 2001 was for his legally prescribed ADD meds. He didn't go through the TUE/declaration properly for the US Juniors. After winning his event(s) (can't remember for sure but I seem to remember it being the hurdles) he came back positive. After his initial 2 year ban, he provided his documentation to the authorities it was knocked back to 1 year (essentially nothing given he was still a college kid under the NCAAs rules).

Calling him a 2x doper for this is petty and muckraking.

Yeah, but Letsrunners have never let facts get in the way of their emotions or a good story.

They've made up their minds about Gatlin. In between hemming and hawing about how NBC won't show the most boring event (10K) in its entirety on their network, they'll tear Gatlin apart when he is no dirtier than anyone.

hysteriaBegetsHyperbole wrote:

Wah wah wah. Elites dope. Wah Wah. If the sport were clean, it would be boring. They all dope. Some get caught. Some don't. If you're not dopin, you're not tryin.

That's great. Be sure to send Gatlin your address so he can send you the medical bills related to health issues due to doping.

And then, your kids will have to start doping to do okay at national level. Still cool Internet toughie?

I thought so.

Gatlin knows how the system works. Doping is okay.

If my kids needed to dope to either qualify for nationals, or the Olympics, or win gold, I would tell them to do whatever they could to make it happen.

You call it "doping." I call it progress.

PoisonIvy wrote:

His ban in 2001 was for his legally prescribed ADD meds. He didn't go through the TUE/declaration properly for the US Juniors. After winning his event(s) (can't remember for sure but I seem to remember it being the hurdles) he came back positive. After his initial 2 year ban, he provided his documentation to the authorities it was knocked back to 1 year (essentially nothing given he was still a college kid under the NCAAs rules).

Calling him a 2x doper for this is petty and muckraking.

Gatlin is a doping cheater and thief. You little fanboyz can rationalize it all you want, but he is a doper in fact. He may be no worse than the doping cheaters Rupp, Radcliffe and Mo, but the doper Gatlin is a cheater.

He's Filthy wrote:

PoisonIvy wrote:

His ban in 2001 was for his legally prescribed ADD meds. He didn't go through the TUE/declaration properly for the US Juniors. After winning his event(s) (can't remember for sure but I seem to remember it being the hurdles) he came back positive. After his initial 2 year ban, he provided his documentation to the authorities it was knocked back to 1 year (essentially nothing given he was still a college kid under the NCAAs rules).

Calling him a 2x doper for this is petty and muckraking.

Gatlin is a doping cheater and thief. You little fanboyz can rationalize it all you want, but he is a doper in fact. He may be no worse than the doping cheaters Rupp, Radcliffe and Mo, but the doper Gatlin is a cheater.

Skinny distance dweebs get so angry when real men get the spotlight.

At least he was convicted and did time and was forced to miss one Olympics in his prime.

Think of all of the drug cheat heroes that were never convicted.

These threads make me lol.

Virtually zero of Gatlin's competitors are clean. Bolt is a science experiment. Only difference is that Gatlin was caught and made to be a sacrificial lamb. If anything, he deserves respect for competing at his "advanced age" and staying in shape throughout the ban + returning to compete again.

The entire Rio men's 100 meter final will be dirty as frack. The women's race will be even more obscene.

Look at sports where the top US athletes are clean, like Olympic weightlifting. They don't get anywhere near the medals. Hell, we only qualified one guy for Rio. More depressing than being represented by a doper like Gatlin, in my opinion.