so I'm training to run 8:40 in the 3 km and one of my main workouts is a hard 20 km long run. I usually do these around 6 min mile pace. I've heard of the Japanese doings 2 hard long runs in a row, it was apart of a hard push for aerobic fitness. Has anyone heard of this? Has anyone did this or see/heard of someone doing this? Is this only beneficial for marathon training? what are some really good long run workouts?
why 2 hard runs? its non efficiet do a really easy long one then if you want to a a more intense tempo or fartlek.
Do not run hard , run light and smart. You will be faster with more endurance and won't get injured. I know about the corporate Japanese races. How many run for the long run? Why aren't they as fast as the Kenyans and Ethipians who take it easssy and long?
I've felt as though the easy long runs dont reap the same benefits as a hard long run, for myself. And the Kenyan that ran the 2nd fastest marathon ever, Wilson Kipsang, does a hard 35 km run at 2:12 marathon pace for his long runs.
It doesn't matter if you feel like easy runs don't help you. Running is entirely science and what you're doing is bad for you. Try to learn the facts, not read some anecdote and do what it says blindly. Train like an individual. And you aren't Wilson Kipsang so why do you care what he's doing?
Well I worry about what Wilson kipsang is doing because he is one of the best runners that have ever lived and if it Helped him run 2:03 in the marathon then maybe it's worth doing.
He became great because he does what's right for him, not someone else. Also, he's a genetically gifted and of course we are not. Lastly, Jim Ryun did a few hard workouts in his life and they helped him run kinda fast. Why don't we all train like he did?
Think wrote:
It doesn't matter if you feel like easy runs don't help you. Running is entirely science and what you're doing is bad for you. Try to learn the facts, not read some anecdote and do what it says blindly. Train like an individual. And you aren't Wilson Kipsang so why do you care what he's doing?
Don't pay any attention to this.
There are no facts to learn except what works for you and what doesn't. There's absolutely no science on the matter of single vs back-to-back long runs that you brought up.
If you try it and you feel/get faster, keep it up. If you find that it doesn't improve your training progression, stick to a single.