BREAKING: A great day for the sport. Russia remains banned for Rio

Nothing more than an attempt by the IAAF to draw attention away from where the donation money to experts went.

Russians will still compete at the Olympics. Individual justice!

A promising move. The question is whether the IOC will override.

It's too early to say what this will mean for Rio. It effectively could turn out to be just be a symbolic ban if the IOC decides to overrule the IAAF and let individual "clean" Russians compete..

I hope the IOC stays out of it, but even if they do overrule the IAAF, I still think this is an encouraging development in the anti-doping movement. It sets a strong precedence for future cases and sends a message to other nations. Already we've seen it make a difference as there was a much bigger push for Kenya to get its act together since they didn't want to suffer the same fate as Russia. Sure the politicians still dragged their feet, but there was a lot more pressure from the athletes and that's where things start.

Athletes, officials, federations and governments need to have fear of consequences. There have been so many busts this year (on athletes and officials), we're talking more than a few sacrificial lambs. Of course doping and corruption will continue, but hopefully this year will have some thinking twice.

And even if every single Russian is allowed to compete in Rio, this decision still has important consequences. Of course the Olympics is the most important thing on the calendar, but there are other events that will now be "Russian-less". The European Championships are this summer and now the thousands and thousands of dollars in Diamond League prize money will not be available to Russian athletes. And if this happens again in a non-Olympic year, the IOC won't have the power to overrule the IAAF so an entire country could miss the World Championships.

Shobukhova is definitely clean and should be allowed to compete. If she starts eating ostrich meat for her anemia she could run a 2:12.

More here

http://bigstory.ap.org/c9cb27e6531740eeab8dd886a0f3a96d

Absolutely the correct decision. I have strong doubts about any top Russians being clean. With the state sponsored program there is no way a top Russian athlete was unaware of the doping in their country. Doing nothing with knowledge mass cheating was occurring makes you deserving of a ban as well.

YMMV wrote:

A promising move. The question is whether the IOC will override.

They will override it, for sure.

If you ban Russia, you also have to ban Kenya.

That's the right decision because they didn't make a resounding effort to change. If they were allowed back, it would be seen as another slap on the wrist, and dopers encouraged to continue cheating.

Birthdaychickcrunk wrote:

That's the right decision because they didn't make a resounding effort to change. If they were allowed back, it would be seen as another slap on the wrist, and dopers encouraged to continue cheating.

Good thing no other nations are as bad as the Russians.

“The I.O.C. is hiding behind WADA,” General McCaffrey said in a recent phone interview, suggesting negative attention was deflected from one organization to another.

As is the IAAF. The IOC will have to do some gymnastics to get Russians at the games, but it's happening.

Is the sound really low on the youtube stream for anyone else? I cant hear a word.

Never mind I put my headphones in and I can hear it now.

TERRIBLE, THE MAJORITY OF RUSSIAN ATHLETES ARE NOT DOPING, LETS PUNSIH EVERYONE FOR THE ACTIONS OF A FEW. YOU CAN BET THEY WOULD NEVER TO DO THIS TO KENYA, JAMAICA, OR ETHIOPIA. THAT WOULD BE RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYCISTTTTT..

BUT A WHITE COUNTRY, YEP THEY GET BANNED IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE.

It's good news. But I still wish more was done for the sport in the U.S. as well. It's embarrassing how many convicted dopers we send to major championships.

So you're telling me out of over 118+ countries which participate in the IAAF Russia is the one and only county that has state sponsored doping etc. and deserve this historic ban. Or is it because they're the only country caught up in the whole IAAF bribery/cover up thing which implicates pretty much the whole upper echelon of that organization?

Seems the latter of your read between the lines...

IAAF should send a stronger message by saying that after all corruption scandals there is no way to guarantee that any of the athletes are clean and track and field should be withdrawn from the Olympics for now.

Next up: Kenya.

MAKES ME SICK THAT KENYA, JAMAICA, OR ETHIOPIA ARE NOT ON THE LIST......POLITICALLY CORRECT BS.....AS A FAN OF DISTANCE RUNNING I HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SEE MEDALS WINNERS GET AWAY WITH CHEATING

So this ban IS happening, or is it pending some kind of appeal?

Why do you not understand?

Coe, who apparently got his IAAF head job by hiring a man wanted by interpol to pay bribes, is from the UK.

The head of WADA, who did not find the UK head of IAAF to be noncompliant with the WADA Code despite bribes being taken to cover up positive doping results, is from the UK.

Kenya is from the UK Commonwealth

Jamaica, which got caught not doing any testing is from the UK Commonwealth

Those people are not banned because they are "good guys" from the UK.

Russia is not from the UK, so they are banned.