New documentary tonight. Looks from the news article damaging to Coe.
Wait to hear both sides, but still....
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New documentary tonight. Looks from the news article damaging to Coe.
Wait to hear both sides, but still....
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One of the texts quoted by the BBC is interesting:
Diack Jr to Davies: "Speak to Phil Knight for confirmation of Steve Miller (USATF delegate to Congress) for his pledge!!??"
Davies: "Done!"
Diack Jr: "Just bumped into Seb - he is extremely grateful for your advice and friendship - see you later!"
Was Phil Knight (Nike) dictating to the USATF to vote for Coe, a Nike employee?
"The BBC showed these text messages to Jack Robertson, a former chief investigator for the World Anti-Doping Agency and the man who investigated the Shobukhova doping scandal.
"It appears that Coe is taking advice from someone who is at the centre of this scandal to extort athletes," said Robertson.
"It's wrong on so many fronts. It's not just disappointing, it's disgusting." "
Coe is a sickening sycophant.
A news story that gives Steve Miller's background and explains his connection to Nike/Phil Knight:
http://fittish.deadspin.com/the-iaafs-new-president-is-on-nikes-payroll-1725250200U Asked For It wrote:
"The BBC showed these text messages to Jack Robertson, a former chief investigator for the World Anti-Doping Agency and the man who investigated the Shobukhova doping scandal.
"It appears that Coe is taking advice from someone who is at the centre of this scandal to extort athletes," said Robertson.
"It's wrong on so many fronts. It's not just disappointing, it's disgusting." "
Coe is a sickening sycophant.
Nonsense. All hearsay. Don't listen to British sensationalists - wait for the official statement from the IAAF president. There is no reason to suspect any foul play. Coe is the good guy, as proven by IAAF and WADA.
rekrunnr wrote:
U Asked For It wrote:"The BBC showed these text messages to Jack Robertson, a former chief investigator for the World Anti-Doping Agency and the man who investigated the Shobukhova doping scandal.
"It appears that Coe is taking advice from someone who is at the centre of this scandal to extort athletes," said Robertson.
"It's wrong on so many fronts. It's not just disappointing, it's disgusting." "
Coe is a sickening sycophant.
Nonsense. All hearsay. Don't listen to British sensationalists - wait for the official statement from the IAAF president. There is no reason to suspect any foul play. Coe is the good guy, as proven by IAAF and WADA.
Proven? Aren't you mister evidence? What has the IAAF done to prove he is a good guy?
For starters, they kicked out Papa's complete inner circle, and promoted the Lord. That is clear evidence!
Second, the impeccable Paula, now a high ranking IAAF official, repeatedly stood up for him. That is more evidence!
So in summary, before Coe became President, he 'played the game', so to speak, because he knew it was his only chance to get the top job. Had he not done that, someone else would have and we would be in the same position. I'm not going to stand up for him or claim what he was doing was ok, but I think it is only fair to judge him on what has been achieved since he won presidency, as before that what was going on was somewhat out of his hands.
larkimm wrote:
New documentary tonight. Looks from the news article damaging to Coe.
You sound surprised, as if Coe had any credibility left.
Speaking of credibility: have you seen this here, incl. the New York Times article?
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7385892Seb Coe states that he had no knowledge:
This is the most recent story I can find about the Stepanovs. I've seen no evidence that Seb Coe has ever met with them, and it appears they have not received any assistance for relocation or job retraining. Anybody have information to the contrary?
To summarise wrote:
I'm not going to stand up for him or claim what he was doing was ok, but I think it is only fair to judge him on what has been achieved since he won presidency, as before that what was going on was somewhat out of his hands.
"out of his hands"? I don't agree. Those were his decisions. Including lobbying for his employer Nike and lying about it.
And since he won presidency? Hmmm, off the top of my head: attacking Seppelt, attacking Ashenden, giving his British buddies various IAAF positions, making Hightower the Chair of Conflict Resolution, putting more corrupt people on the Ethics committee.
Anything positive?
The IAAF's official response:
http://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/panorama-bbc-statement-sebastian-coe
casual obsever wrote:
To summarise wrote:I'm not going to stand up for him or claim what he was doing was ok, but I think it is only fair to judge him on what has been achieved since he won presidency, as before that what was going on was somewhat out of his hands.
"out of his hands"? I don't agree. Those were his decisions. Including lobbying for his employer Nike and lying about it.
And since he won presidency? Hmmm, off the top of my head: attacking Seppelt, attacking Ashenden, giving his British buddies various IAAF positions, making Hightower the Chair of Conflict Resolution, putting more corrupt people on the Ethics committee.
Anything positive?
I never claimed it was all positive since he won, but getting Russian banned and forcing several other countries to get their act together is a step in the right direction, far more than Diack ever managed
USATF angle wrote:
Was Phil Knight (Nike) dictating to the USATF to vote for Coe, a Nike employee?
You thought the federation was an independent organization?
Is the broadcast accessible from the US?
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
USATF angle wrote:Was Phil Knight (Nike) dictating to the USATF to vote for Coe, a Nike employee?
You thought the federation was an independent organization?
Oh boy. What fun!!!
This is really going to get interesting for Lord Sebastian Coe of BRITAIN.
Nick Davies, the former chief of staff to IAAF President Lord Sebastian Coe (3:47.33 miler) is also the man who wrote the 'plan B' email to Papa Massata Diack regarding covering up Russian doping and using the Lausanne lab of Dr. Martial Saugy as a Plan B. The lab of Dr. Saugy is where the 67 Russian samples were destroyed, preventing any future analysis (plan B).
Nick Davies is also now accused of receiving 30,000 in unknown currency from Papa Massata Diack for "UK press lobbying and to assuage his wife Jane Boulter-Davies". His wife used to work in the ANTI-DOPING unit of the IAAF. She is accused of receiving, or having knowledge of the alleged payment to her husband in the year 2013. She now works as an administrator for the IAAF athletes' commission.
The vice chairman of the IAAF athletes' commission is PAULA RADCLIFFE. She has also trained in Flagstaff, Arizona.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/10/sebastian-coe-former-chief-of-staff-iaaf-nick-davies-supsended-bribe-russian-dopinghttp://www.iaaf.org/about-iaaf/structure/commissionsThat is just a coincidence.
There is also a connection to the NETHERLANDS.
Sifan Hassan is a citizen of the Netherlands and managed by Jos Hermens of the Netherlands. She also trains in Flagstaff, Arizona.
That is just a coincidence.
I will give you the connection in the future. Trust me.
The future is now:
That is just a coincidence.
Let's say for the sake of argument that Coe was using Davies as an intermediary (which he was) to get Papa Diack to help him win the Presidency. Davies could have handled the corruption without Coe knowing or could have been the fall guy for Coe. If Coe did not know that Davies was corrupt, he may simply have been trying to reform the IAAF by getting the presidency and knew he could do nothing without the presidency--which required the Diacks's support. He has been handling doping since his election but also de-emphasized it in the campaign to win, as per Papa Diack's advice. I'd like to think that he is clean of all this and had this intention all along to clean up the IAAF. But how credible can that possible be after he was Diack's right hand man and on the board all those years?
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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