Schumacher, Rowlands, Mackey, Gags, Wartenburg, Gary, Coogan, Mahon

coaching locks measured wrote:

What coach/group would you want to be in if you were graduating this year? I know the funding of these groups differs, but who is actually best coaches for what events?

Gags - 800m, 1500m

Schumacher - Steeple, 5000m, 10000m

Rowlands - 800m, 1500m

Mackey - 800m, 1500m

Gary - 1500m steeple

coogan - 5000m, 10000m

Mahon - overrated

Wartenburg - who is this?

Coogan should not be on this list either. Coaches Abbey and that's it. What happened to Corey McGee and who else is in group?

800m- Mackey, Vigil/Carlos

1500m- Gary, Gags

Steeple- Gary, Schumacher, Wetmore (females only)

5000m- Schumacher, Wetmore, Salazar, Rowland

10000m- Rowland, Schumacher

yuuuuup wrote:

coaching locks measured wrote:

What coach/group would you want to be in if you were graduating this year? I know the funding of these groups differs, but who is actually best coaches for what events?

Wartenburg - who is this?

Drew's a great coach who has worked his way up the food chain and now coaches the Nor-Cal Distance Project -

Andy Powell (Oregon & Luke Puskedra's coach). Coached Centro, Wheating, Fleet, Greer, others to big breakthroughs.

Would you rather have a sh1t pizza or a sh1t burger?

I'd rather get my training and racing advice from the letsrun hive mind.

Is Brenda's husband coaching Berian? Who else is in the Big bear group?

daane wrote:

yuuuuup wrote:

Wartenburg - who is this?

Drew's a great coach who has worked his way up the food chain and now coaches the Nor-Cal Distance Project -

http://www.norcaldistance.com/team.html

Nice to see a sub elite running club on here. Hopefully they can qualify some people for the trials.

Let's start by listing people likely to make the trials and having shots for every coach who has a significant professional presence. I used team websites to build this list. I'm sure there are other 'pro' coaches but these were the names I came up with:

Gags:

Trials shots: Charnigo, Higginson, Penney, Tulley, Wilson, Merber, Colby Alexander, Donn Cabral, Gagnon, Gregorek, Michael Jordan, Travis Mahoney, Mike Rutt, Ford Palmer

Oly shots: Tulley, Cabral, Merber

Schumacher

Trials: Andy Bayer, Bumbalough, Derrick, Fernandez, Hill, Huling, Infeld, Jager, Lomong,Quigly, Shayla Houlihan,

Oly: Flanagan, Hastings, Huling, Bayer, Hill, Infeld, Jager, Lomong, Houlihan, Quigly

Danny Mackey

Trials: Nick Symmonds, Cas Loxsom, Drew Windle, Phoebe Wright, Garrett Heath, Katie Mackey, Brie Felnagle, Riley Masters, Jess Tonn, Megan Malasarte, Dorian Ulrey

Oly: Symmonds, Loxsom, Wright, Heath, Mackey

Salazar:

Trials:Rupp, Centrowitz, Rowberry, Cain, Moser, Hasay, Jenkins

Oly: Rupp, Centrowitz, Rowberry, Jenkins

Centrowitz Sr:

Trials shots: Sam Penzenstadler, Kerri Gallagher

Oly shots: Kerri Gallagher

Derek Thompson

Trials/Oly shots: Ajee Wilson, Marielle Hall

Steve Magness

Trials: Sara Hall, Natosha Rogers, Melissa Salerno, Lea Wallace, Neely Spence

Oly shots: Rogers

Ray Treacy:

Trials: Huddle, Sisson, Goodman

Oly shots: Sisson, Huddle

Wartenberg:

Trials: Kim Conley, Kate Grace,

Oly shots: Conley, Grace

Coogan:

Trials: Abby D'Agastino, Cory McGee, Liz Costello

Oly shots: D'Agastino

Mahon:

Trials: Sarah Pagano, Emma Bates, Morgan Uceny, Elaina Balouris

Oly: Uceny

Robert Gary:

Trials: Jeff See, Chelsea Reilly, Stephanie Garcia, Cory Leslie, Craig Forys,

Oly: Garcia, Leslie

Lee Troop:

Trials: Sean Quigly, Laura Thweatt

Ian Dobson:

Trials: Bridget Franek, Geena Gall, Kimber Maddux

Ben Rosario:

Trials: Kellyn Taylor, Stephanie Bruce, Ben Bruce, Scott Fauble, Rochelle Kunahu,

Oly: Kellyn Taylor

Dennis Barker

Trials: Heather Kampf, Parker Stinson

Oly: Kampf

Hansons-Brooks

Track Trials Bobby Curtis, Brendan Gregg, Jake Riley, Jason Witt

Marathon Trials. All of the above plus Mo Hrezi, Mike Morgan, Luke Humphrey, Desiree Linden, Melissa White, Dot McMahan, Katie Kellner, Melanie Brender, Dani Miller, Jen Rock

Olympians Desiree Linden and Mo Hrezi (Libya)

Mackey coaches Justine Fedronic, she just qualified for the French Rio team at the ATL race.

Doreen Johnson wrote:

Mackey coaches Justine Fedronic, she just qualified for the French Rio team at the ATL race.

The author limited the list to Americans (see no Farah/Levins for Salazar, Declan Murray for Gags, etc)

If I was given a "Do over" I would definitely want to run for Mark Wetmore. My next choice would be to run for Squires, then Bob Larsen.

A few more

Salazar:

Oly: Levins (Canada)

Schumacher:

Oly: Ahmed (Canada)

Mackey:

Olympic: Fredronic (france)

Oly chance: Grunewald

Magness:

Olympic: Mark English (Ireland)

Rowland:

Trials:

Trials: Mac FLeet, Elijah Greer, Charles Jock, McNamara, Mulder, Wheating

Oly shot: Blankenship, Casey, Mead,

Oly : Aman, Tom Farrell, Sally Kipyego, Praught, Reid

Dobson:

Olympic: Pappas (Greece)

Speed River- Dave Scott Thomas

A bunch of Canadians.

Big Bear Track Club

Trials:

Oly shot: Martinez, Berian

Gags = no ego. Gags is an all time great. Especially for milers. He gets it.

In college if you wanna be a great miler, go to Oregon. Andy Powell. After college get with Gags. Others are good too, don't get me wrong, but if you want the odds on your side...Gags and Powell.

Mackey has had the most consistent success. I would want to join his group.

Most (not all) of Salazar's group has been racing horribly or in hiding since the drug leaks came out. It is odd how quickly that group fell off. I wonder what that means.

not a question wrote:

Most (not all) of Salazar's group has been racing horribly or in hiding since the drug leaks came out. It is odd how quickly that group fell off. I wonder what that means.

MOST of Salazar's group have run extremely well since the unproven claims about doping violations came out.

Centrowitz: USA Champ Outdoors / World indoors Gold

Rupp: Marathon Champ

Rowbury: American Record outdoors / World Indoors Bronze

Farah: Wins just about everything he races

Try to keep up

not a question wrote:

Mackey has had the most consistent success. I would want to join his group.

Insert Nick Young confused look meme

Rowbury has tanked this outdoor season. Slow 800m, 1500m almost 10 seconds slower than she ran last year.

Cain has regressed to where she was as a 15 year old.

Cam has gone backwards. Not even the best Canadian anymore

Japanese guy- running poorly.

Hasay one decent 10k, everything else bad.

Moser gone backwards

Rupp His saving grace was winning a "weak" marathon trials for someone with his PR's.

Centro and Farah are the only ones up to par this year and Farah doesn't even train with them! Rowbury was great last year, but is no where near that form now.

SO this year you have 2/9 running well.

Since the allegations you have 3/9 running better or as good as pre-allegations.

Yep, that is certainly most.