Slagowski AND tamagno headlining national mile at PRE

Three preps running sub-4 in a season would be one thing, but if they do it at the same meet, that would be a real watershed in American running.

So few hours before HUNTER runs the Bowerman mile, Slagowski and Tamagno are gonna run some lesser mile race. Waste of time. Slagowski should have hung up the phone with Pre.

A good situation where tamagno could possibly go for his first sub 4 mile. He has the wheels to do so. Hopefully can especially since he's forgoing the rest of his HS eligibility and missing state

scewit! wrote:

So few hours before HUNTER runs the Bowerman mile, Slagowski and Tamagno are gonna run some lesser mile race. Waste of time. Slagowski should have hung up the phone with Pre.

They are in a lesser mile race because they have put up lesser results.

It will be more obvious as more and more high schoolers break 4 in the next few years:

Slagowski and Tamagno are once every year talents. Hunter is a once every 10-15 year talent.

Tamagno ran a 3:44 @ HOka distance classic at a meet in his backyard. This is a 4:01.85 equivalent mile but he didn't have the wheels at the end of that 1500m and was fading so I think it's more like 4:02 high.

I think Tamagno is not breaking 4 at PRE. That bruital Cali race schedule will do him in.

Hunter's already run 3:42 this spring (3:59 equiv). Slag ran a 3:59 full as well.

Dayem wrote:

Tamagno ran a 3:44 @ HOka distance classic at a meet in his backyard. This is a 4:01.85 equivalent mile but he didn't have the wheels at the end of that 1500m and was fading so I think it's more like 4:02 high.

I think Tamagno is not breaking 4 at PRE. That bruital Cali race schedule will do him in.

Hunter's already run 3:42 this spring (3:59 equiv). Slag ran a 3:59 full as well.

I agree that Tamagno won't break 4 this year, although I think he'll be very close. However, did you actually watch that race? He kicked brilliantly, prompting Solinsky/Webb to say "wow, Tamagno looks good" in the home stretch. He tangled with someone with about 70 meters to go (and that was the other guy's fault) but he still kicked well. Maybe he won't break 4, but even the announcers thought the tangle was worth half a second and that he looked great.

Wasn't impressed by 3:44, then I watched the race video. Tamagno got elbowed really hard and pushed out into lane 2 by some Napoleon in a red jersey who was about to hear whoosh as Tamagno was getting ready to pass. Red jersey should have been dq'd.

Tough break but good learning experience in a crowded finish. Tamagno breaks 4 at pre.

I don't think the shove cost him as much as running the last four curves in the outside of lane 1. To be expected when a kid is running with pros for the first time, but hopefully he gets on the rail and hangs for sub-4.

cmdndnenwks wrote:

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Should make for a great race

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Dayem wrote:

Tamagno ran a 3:44 @ HOka distance classic at a meet in his backyard. This is a 4:01.85 equivalent mile but he didn't have the wheels at the end of that 1500m and was fading so I think it's more like 4:02 high.

I think Tamagno is not breaking 4 at PRE. That bruital Cali race schedule will do him in.

Hunter's already run 3:42 this spring (3:59 equiv). Slag ran a 3:59 full as well.

To me, this is what matters. Both of them have run the same times thus far this season. Put them in the same race. It doesn't matter what you did last year, or the year before. What does matter is what you have done lately - and the manner in which you did it.

Let 'em race wrote:

Dayem wrote:

Tamagno ran a 3:44 @ HOka distance classic at a meet in his backyard. This is a 4:01.85 equivalent mile but he didn't have the wheels at the end of that 1500m and was fading so I think it's more like 4:02 high.

I think Tamagno is not breaking 4 at PRE. That bruital Cali race schedule will do him in.

Hunter's already run 3:42 this spring (3:59 equiv). Slag ran a 3:59 full as well.

To me, this is what matters. Both of them have run the same times thus far this season. Put them in the same race. It doesn't matter what you did last year, or the year before. What does matter is what you have done lately - and the manner in which you did it.

Hunter literally ran 3:57 indoors this year and was therefore put in the Pre mile. The heck are you talking about?

If I was a high school kid wanting to break 4 for the first time, I would definitely want to be in the race Tamagno and Slagowski are in, because there will be a pack trying for 3:57 or 3:58 range.

Hunter's race will have a pack trying for 3:52 range.

For somebody hoping to just break 4 for the first time, much better to be in a race with the right pacing, rather than being forced to choose between going out too hard or falling off the pack.

you're comparing this to news from 1865 when the story was from the afternoon before?

Any pro that finishes behind one of these HS kids at Pre needs to retire on the spot.

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scewit! wrote:

So few hours before HUNTER runs the Bowerman mile, Slagowski and Tamagno are gonna run some lesser mile race. Waste of time. Slagowski should have hung up the phone with Pre.

They are in a lesser mile race because they have put up lesser results.

It will be more obvious as more and more high schoolers break 4 in the next few years:

Slagowski and Tamagno are once every year talents. Hunter is a once every 10-15 year talent.

Slagowski has much more upside in the 800/1500 than Drew. He's a better miler than Drew right now. Drew was towed to his best times. Slagowski has basically done it on his own. Drew's running form is so awful it'll be interesting to see if he can improve much beyond his high school times. Slagowski's low mileage and already smooth form point to some fast times in college if he's handled correctly.

It'll be great if Tamagno can crack four in the race. Three in a year would hype up more kids to take up the challenge. Meaning more kids with talent, not slow and heavy-footed LR types.

Slagowski 3:59 solo.

Hunter 3:57 with plenty of help to get him there.

Slagowski FTW

what you think of as bad running form isn't necessarily inefficient, as studies have shown about perceived form. But follow the logic of your claim: if his running form is bad, then why would that mean he can't improve? Doesn't it make sense that he would be able to improve much more, because he has bad running form, since that is easily correctible?

Slagowski has a lot more in the tank and I am confident that he will show that this year. He is overraced and doing too much quality in his races, yet he really does not seem like he is running all that hard in these three 1:48-49s that he has run. So, I think that he is going to hit it out of the park when he faces the pros at Pre and gets a good pacer for an 800m later. Hunter is going to run very fast as well. No reason to run either of them down. These are the two best middle distance runners we've seen at the high school level since Webb and Ryun.

Where is Slagowski going to college next year? Tamagno and Hunter are both going to Oregon, right?

Yup. Slag --->Penn State

BleedingBlue wrote:

Where is Slagowski going to college next year? Tamagno and Hunter are both going to Oregon, right?