Wow: 40-year old Kim Collins just beat 20-year old Trayvon Bromell in 100m

Full results can be found here

http://www.greatcitygames.org/results/manchester/2016

Here are some of the other marquee events. Dafne Schippers won the women's 100 and Greg Rutherford dominated the men's LJ.

Men's 110h

POS ATHLETE MARK WIND: 2.9 M/S

1 USA RYAN WILSON 13.62

2 DEN ANDREAS MARTINSEN 13.73

3 GBR DAVID KING 13.79

4 GER RENE MAHLMANN 13.94

Men's LJ

POS ATHLETE MARK

1 GBR GREG RUTHERFORD 8.20

2 USA MELVIN ECHARD 7.53

3 USA NORRIS FREDERICK 7.47

4 GBR JJ JEGEDE 7.43

5 NED IGNISIOUS GAISAH 7.41

6 NED RONALD HERTOG 7.00

Women's 100

POS ATHLETE MARK WIND: 2.7 M/S

1 NED DAFNE SCHIPPERS 10.94

2 USA TIANNA BARTOLLETA 11.19

3 GER LAURA MULLER 11.43

4 USA CLEO VANBUREN 11.69

Women's 100h

POS ATHLETE MARK WIND: 2.2 M/S

1 GBR TIFFANY PORTER 12.89

2 GBR LUCY HATTON 13.15

3 NOR ISABELLE PEDERSEN 13.30

4 GBR SERITA SOLOMON 13.73

Bromell looked awful. I thought he would be a medal contender this year. Those street race times are never reliable, but Dafne is the only one that looked really good, even as the times were nothing to write home about.

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No big deal. There's really nothing to read into with this race, so we shouldnt write him off as a medal contender just yet(if at all). Birmingham will be more telling

Imperial conversion: First place in LJ was 26'10.8" and second place was 24" 8.46" I'm still a die-hard when it comes to events like the HJ, LJ, discus throw, hammer throw, shot put, pole vault and javelin- prefer feet and inches. Meters mean nothing to me.

Maybe when the NFL combine starts measuring vertical jumps and standing broad jumps in centimeters, then I will come around. Until then feet and inches for throwing and jumping events.

Feet and inches guy wrote:

Imperial conversion: First place in LJ was 26'10.8" and second place was 24" 8.46" I'm still a die-hard when it comes to events like the HJ, LJ, discus throw, hammer throw, shot put, pole vault and javelin- prefer feet and inches. Meters mean nothing to me.

Maybe when the NFL combine starts measuring vertical jumps and standing broad jumps in centimeters, then I will come around. Until then feet and inches for throwing and jumping events.

Maybe time to catch up with the rest of the WOLRD ??

I know it was cold, but those are massive winds. Both the men and women were hugely disappointing. Doubt any of these people will be medalling in the 100m come Rio unless they drastically step things up.

When you are leading the world, as the United States of America is, then perhaps the rest of the world needs to catch up to us.

kjVC wrote:

When you are leading the world, as the United States of America is, then perhaps the rest of the world needs to catch up to us.

Then why does someone feel the need to make it great again?

Will this be the year Kilty finally breaks 10? Its coming.

letsracer wrote:

Will this be the year Kilty finally breaks 10? Its coming.

You say this after he runs 10.2? Lol

No disrespect to Bromell, but I don't see him as future of American sprinting as some like Mo Greene have said. I think he is very good and well get better, but I am doubtful how much better. In spite of his bronze medal at last year's WCs, I put Bromell in the bottom half of the top-6 sprinters in the world. Obviously, that still makes him very good, but when we say the future of American sprinting, that standard use to mean you are either the best in the world or number 2 at least. Right now there is Bolt, Gatlin and everyone else. Even among the U.S. top sprinters, most of the time Bromell looks slightly better than average. A dominant sprinter looks dominant, even when they don't run a great time, they win. I can only recall Bromell having one victory against world class competition. I watched Gatlin run a 4x1 leg at the Penn Relays and he looked like a man against boys, that's what dominance looks like. I know Bromell has a 10.84 PR to his credit, but beyond that one race, he has a 9.9x mid average. In my mind, that doesn't make you a solid 9.8x sprinter, I prefer to take the average of your 3 best races, which would make Bromell a solid 9.9x sprinter. 9.9x means you are in the chorus. With all of that said, obviously you can't discredit a 21 year old who is among the top sprinters in the world. Bromell is young, he will get better and I think he will always be good enough to consistently make national teams and global championship finals. But, I don't see him as the guy whose going to run incredible times, win gold medals and restore U.S. sprint dominance.

Schippers looked good. Nice sprint form.

No disrespect to Bromell, but I don't see him as future of American sprinting as some like Mo Greene have said. I think he is very good and well get better, but I am doubtful how much better. In spite of his bronze medal at last year's WCs, I put Bromell in the bottom half of the top-6 sprinters in the world. Obviously, that still makes him very good, but when we say the future of American sprinting, that standard use to mean you are either the best in the world or number 2 at least. Right now there is Bolt, Gatlin and everyone else. Even among the U.S. top sprinters, most of the time Bromell looks slightly better than average. A dominant sprinter looks dominant, even when they don't run a great time, they win. I can only recall Bromell having one victory against world class competition. I watched Gatlin run a 4x1 leg at the Penn Relays and he looked like a man against boys, that's what dominance looks like. I know Bromell has a 10.84 PR to his credit, but beyond that one race, he has a 9.9x mid average. In my mind, that doesn't make you a solid 9.8x sprinter, I prefer to take the average of your 3 best races, which would make Bromell a solid 9.9x sprinter. 9.9x means you are in the chorus. With all of that said, obviously you can't discredit a 21 year old who is among the top sprinters in the world. Bromell is young, he will get better and I think he will always be good enough to consistently make national teams and global championship finals. But, I don't see him as the guy whose going to run incredible times, win gold medals and restore U.S. sprint dominance.

TrackCoach wrote:

But, I don't see him as the guy whose going to run incredible times, win gold medals and restore U.S. sprint dominance.

He won gold at Indoors WCHs this year.

Ben L Wrong wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

But, I don't see him as the guy whose going to run incredible times, win gold medals and restore U.S. sprint dominance.

He won gold at Indoors WCHs this year.

Haha! Good one. You're kidding, right?

I'm there with 'Feet and inches guy'. Although it pains me to admit it, I am a 60-year old American who has been running since the 9th grade. I've been reading 'Track and Fields News' since 1975.

https://www.trackandfieldnews.com/

I grew up in a high school and college world of 'US customary units'... inches, feet, miles, etc. That frame of reference continues for me today. As 'Feet and inches guy' says... "Meters (for field events) mean nothing to me." Track and Field News, the long standing self-proclaimed 'Bible of the Sport' does the right thing for fans world-wide. They provide field results in both US customary units, and their metric equivalents... as here, in their current men's world-leaders list:

https://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/yearly-leaders/13-lists/2903

And not only does providing results in both systems provide older fans like me,... with marks they can immediately make sense of and compare to historical efforts... but, I'm pretty sure that many younger U.S. track and field fans are in the same boat as 'Feet and inches guy' and me are. I'd be surprised if metric equivalents are immediately intellectually accessible to most high school or college athletes.

kjVC wrote:

When you are leading the world, as the United States of America is, then perhaps the rest of the world needs to catch up to us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Feet and inches guy wrote:Imperial conversion: First place in LJ was 26'10.8" and second place was 24" 8.46" I'm still a die-hard when it comes to events like the HJ, LJ, discus throw, hammer throw, shot put, pole vault and javelin- prefer feet and inches. Meters mean nothing to me.

Maybe when the NFL combine starts measuring vertical jumps and standing broad jumps in centimeters, then I will come around. Until then feet and inches for throwing and jumping events.

that makes you the slowest guy in world to know how a jumps/throws event is going...