Truly amazing: 25 laps wasn't enough to decide SEC 10k, the race was 28 laps long!!

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10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:09am EDT

After reading our Weekly Recap - http://goo.gl/GyfcGG - a LetsRun.com visitor has sent us an amazing email. He reveals that the men's SEC 10k wasn't 25 laps long. No, Jacob Thomson of Kentucky won it after running 28 laps.

an NCAA rules expert wrote:
Lastly - one additional item of note that I didn't see get any play on the MB was that during the Men's 10k at the SEC meet the power & lights to the entire stadium (and a portion of the surrounding campus) went out. The race was being held after 10:00 pm so light was pretty important at that point. :) The race was stopped (they had run about 1200m) and once power was back they ran the full 10k.

We went to rolltide.com and found what they said about the race: "The men's 10,000 meters began ominously when approximately 1,200 meters into the race there was a general power outage in the area that caused a nearly 35-minute delay. After power was restored, Kentucky sophomore Jacob Thompson used a strong finish over the final two laps to claim the SEC title in a winning time of 29:47.89."

Was anyone there? What was it like?

Has anyone been in another distance track race that was stopped mid-race? What are the actual rules? What do you do if you are 4 miles into a 10k? Ring a bell and tell them it's over in 1 lap?

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:13am EDT

re: LetsRun.com

LetsRun.com wrote:
After reading our Weekly Recap -
http://goo.gl/GyfcGG
- a LetsRun.com visitor has sent us an amazing email. He reveals that the men's SEC 10k wasn't 25 laps long. No, Jacob Thomson of Kentucky won it after running 28 laps.
an NCAA rules expert wrote:
Lastly - one additional item of note that I didn't see get any play on the MB was that during the Men's 10k at the SEC meet the power & lights to the entire stadium (and a portion of the surrounding campus) went out. The race was being held after 10:00 pm so light was pretty important at that point. :) The race was stopped (they had run about 1200m) and once power was back they ran the full 10k.
We went to rolltide.com and found what they said about the race: "The men's 10,000 meters began ominously when approximately 1,200 meters into the race there was a general power outage in the area that caused a nearly 35-minute delay. After power was restored, Kentucky sophomore Jacob Thompson used a strong finish over the final two laps to claim the SEC title in a winning time of 29:47.89."
Was anyone there? What was it like?
Has anyone been in another distance track race that was stopped mid-race? What are the actual rules? What do you do if you are 4 miles into a 10k? Ring a bell and tell them it's over in 1 lap?

That means the winner actually ran 26:36 for 25 laps.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:17am EDT

re: LetsRun.com

Sounds like a nice warmup at race pace. How long was the recovery while the power was out?

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:19am EDT

re: LetsRun.com

LetsRun.com wrote:
After reading our Weekly Recap -
http://goo.gl/GyfcGG
- a LetsRun.com visitor has sent us an amazing email. He reveals that the men's SEC 10k wasn't 25 laps long. No, Jacob Thomson of Kentucky won it after running 28 laps.
an NCAA rules expert wrote:
Lastly - one additional item of note that I didn't see get any play on the MB was that during the Men's 10k at the SEC meet the power & lights to the entire stadium (and a portion of the surrounding campus) went out. The race was being held after 10:00 pm so light was pretty important at that point. :) The race was stopped (they had run about 1200m) and once power was back they ran the full 10k.
We went to rolltide.com and found what they said about the race: "The men's 10,000 meters began ominously when approximately 1,200 meters into the race there was a general power outage in the area that caused a nearly 35-minute delay. After power was restored, Kentucky sophomore Jacob Thompson used a strong finish over the final two laps to claim the SEC title in a winning time of 29:47.89."
Was anyone there? What was it like?
Has anyone been in another distance track race that was stopped mid-race? What are the actual rules? What do you do if you are 4 miles into a 10k? Ring a bell and tell them it's over in 1 lap?

Why did they restart? Was there nobody present with a stopwatch going? You don't need auto-timing for a 10k.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:21am EDT

re: LetsRun.com

I was at a meet where the steeplechase was stopped after the first 300m. Someone forgot to put out one of the barriers. The starter and the meet director went out onto the track to stop the race. The runners were given a couple minutes to do a stride or two and the race was restarted.

I don't know the actual rules if a race has been mostly run, and the race stops/has to be stopped for some reason.

This reminds me of that DII XC regional meet where the leaders took a wrong turn around 4 miles, and the entire race was stopped and rerun. That would've sucked!

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:28am EDT

re: ;)

Race stopped because it was too dark without the lights.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:31am EDT

re: LetsRun.com

A few years ago they screwed up d2 cv regionals at UCSD. The leaders ran the wrong way 1/2 way through the race. I think they stopped the race and started it an hour later.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:37am EDT

re: Lopps

I remember somethings similar at the Big East indoor 3K a few years ago when Emily Sisson was running for providence

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:53am EDT

re: LetsRun.com

LetsRun.com wrote:
After reading our Weekly Recap -
http://goo.gl/GyfcGG
- a LetsRun.com visitor has sent us an amazing email. He reveals that the men's SEC 10k wasn't 25 laps long. No, Jacob Thomson of Kentucky won it after running 28 laps.
an NCAA rules expert wrote:
Lastly - one additional item of note that I didn't see get any play on the MB was that during the Men's 10k at the SEC meet the power & lights to the entire stadium (and a portion of the surrounding campus) went out. The race was being held after 10:00 pm so light was pretty important at that point. :) The race was stopped (they had run about 1200m) and once power was back they ran the full 10k.
We went to rolltide.com and found what they said about the race: "The men's 10,000 meters began ominously when approximately 1,200 meters into the race there was a general power outage in the area that caused a nearly 35-minute delay. After power was restored, Kentucky sophomore Jacob Thompson used a strong finish over the final two laps to claim the SEC title in a winning time of 29:47.89."
Was anyone there? What was it like?
Has anyone been in another distance track race that was stopped mid-race? What are the actual rules? What do you do if you are 4 miles into a 10k? Ring a bell and tell them it's over in 1 lap?

In 2010 or '11 in NJ, Jeromy Elkaim and the Rosas were in a 2-mile that was stopped with about 600m to go. From memory, they were on pace to run low 8:40x even if they didn't kick. There is a good chance that race would have went sub-8:40. Sucks! - There was a big debate as to whether the race should have been stopped because of lighting. I agree athlete's safety is paramount and a meet should be stopped when it is lighting, but there is no sense in stopping a race that's in progress with 2 minutes to go. Btw, that was also the meet were sophomore Ajee Wilson ran 2:04x in the 800.

Separate issue, is Elkaim still running; I haven't heard much about him in the last year or two.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:53am EDT

re: Dpcc

Remember the New Jersey state 2 mile championship race with the Rosa twins on record pace and the race was stopped with one lap to go due to lightning?

Didn't the officials line up across the finish line to keep everyone from doing the final lap?

Rescheduled race for Monday but don't think top runners showed up.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 10:57am EDT

re: Lopps

Lopps wrote:
Race stopped because it was too dark without the lights.

Ahh, that makes sense.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 11:00am EDT

re: Meat Management

Meat Management wrote:
A few years ago they screwed up d2 cc regionals at UCSD. The leaders ran the wrong way 1/2 way through the race. I think they stopped the race and started it an hour later.

I remember that story and it sounded MUCH worse than any other one I have heard. Can't imagine running 6k and then having to run a 10k an hour or two later, or something ridiculous. I think it was hot too.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 11:32am EDT

re: LetsRun.com

In 2010 at the WAC championships the race was stopped about 10 minutes early. There was lightning in the area so the PA guy came onto the microphone and yelled "1 lap to go!" and then everyone started kicking. That was messed up.

Heres the results

Mens 10000m Back to top

Name Yr School Finals H# Pts

1 Geiger, Markus 10 Idaho 21:38.66 1 10

2 Zwama, Paul 11 Fresno State 21:43.97 1 8

3 McKenna, Brian 11 Utah State 21:50.26 1 6

4 Bolinder, Nick 11 Utah State 21:53.89 1 4

5 Vartanian, Daniel 9 Fresno State 22:05.15 1 2

6 Foley, Scott 11 Boise State 22:05.77 1 1

7 Garcia, Erick 11 Fresno State 22:06.93 1

8 Howard, Jeff 9 Boise State 22:11.72 1

9 Dube, Jeremiah 10 Idaho 22:12.26 1

10 Ramstad, Jack 11 Louisiana Tech 22:15.37 1

11 Slocum, Josh 10 Louisiana Tech 22:33.91 1

-- Rosaaen, Kevin 9 Boise State NT 1

Read more: 2010 WAC Outdoor Championships - info/results - 05/12/10

10 years ago 05/19/2016 11:40am EDT

re: TrackCoach

TrackCoach wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
After reading our Weekly Recap -
http://goo.gl/GyfcGG
- a LetsRun.com visitor has sent us an amazing email. He reveals that the men's SEC 10k wasn't 25 laps long. No, Jacob Thomson of Kentucky won it after running 28 laps.
We went to rolltide.com and found what they said about the race: "The men's 10,000 meters began ominously when approximately 1,200 meters into the race there was a general power outage in the area that caused a nearly 35-minute delay. After power was restored, Kentucky sophomore Jacob Thompson used a strong finish over the final two laps to claim the SEC title in a winning time of 29:47.89."
Was anyone there? What was it like?
Has anyone been in another distance track race that was stopped mid-race? What are the actual rules? What do you do if you are 4 miles into a 10k? Ring a bell and tell them it's over in 1 lap?
In 2010 or '11 in NJ, Jeromy Elkaim and the Rosas were in a 2-mile that was stopped with about 600m to go. From memory, they were on pace to run low 8:40x even if they didn't kick. There is a good chance that race would have went sub-8:40. Sucks! - There was a big debate as to whether the race should have been stopped because of lighting. I agree athlete's safety is paramount and a meet should be stopped when it is lighting, but there is no sense in stopping a race that's in progress with 2 minutes to go. Btw, that was also the meet were sophomore Ajee Wilson ran 2:04x in the 800.
Separate issue, is Elkaim still running; I haven't heard much about him in the last year or two.

Yep, 2011. I remember thinking that even if the lightning had been a real threat, they would have gotten everyone to shelter faster by getting the crowd moving out of there and then dealing with the runners as they finished, rather than doing what they did and having everyone standing around arguing.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 12:03pm EDT

re: A WR!!!!!

A WR!!!!! wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
After reading our Weekly Recap -
http://goo.gl/GyfcGG
- a LetsRun.com visitor has sent us an amazing email. He reveals that the men's SEC 10k wasn't 25 laps long. No, Jacob Thomson of Kentucky won it after running 28 laps.
We went to rolltide.com and found what they said about the race: "The men's 10,000 meters began ominously when approximately 1,200 meters into the race there was a general power outage in the area that caused a nearly 35-minute delay. After power was restored, Kentucky sophomore Jacob Thompson used a strong finish over the final two laps to claim the SEC title in a winning time of 29:47.89."
Was anyone there? What was it like?
Has anyone been in another distance track race that was stopped mid-race? What are the actual rules? What do you do if you are 4 miles into a 10k? Ring a bell and tell them it's over in 1 lap?
That means the winner actually ran 26:36 for 25 laps.

I know, this can't be right. Letsrun, please address this

10 years ago 05/19/2016 12:14pm EDT

re: ergerg

ergerg wrote:
A WR!!!!! wrote:
That means the winner actually ran 26:36 for 25 laps.
I know, this can't be right. Letsrun, please address this

I'm pretty sure they started the clock over after the race re-started. So they ran 3 laps. Then the race was stopped. There was like a 45 minute break and they started over from scratch.

So the first 3 laps were what most track meets are - an exhibition.

10 years ago 05/19/2016 12:16pm EDT

re: WAC is WAC

WAC is WAC wrote:
In 2010 at the WAC championships the race was stopped about 10 minutes early. There was lightning in the area so the PA guy came onto the microphone and yelled "1 lap to go!" and then everyone started kicking. That was messed up.
Heres the results
Mens 10000m Back to top
Name Yr School Finals H# Pts
1 Geiger, Markus 10 Idaho 21:38.66 1 10
2 Zwama, Paul 11 Fresno State 21:43.97 1 8
3 McKenna, Brian 11 Utah State 21:50.26 1 6
4 Bolinder, Nick 11 Utah State 21:53.89 1 4
5 Vartanian, Daniel 9 Fresno State 22:05.15 1 2
6 Foley, Scott 11 Boise State 22:05.77 1 1
7 Garcia, Erick 11 Fresno State 22:06.93 1
8 Howard, Jeff 9 Boise State 22:11.72 1
9 Dube, Jeremiah 10 Idaho 22:12.26 1
10 Ramstad, Jack 11 Louisiana Tech 22:15.37 1
11 Slocum, Josh 10 Louisiana Tech 22:33.91 1
-- Rosaaen, Kevin 9 Boise State NT 1

This is hilarious. Posts like yours are why I love this site. Sadly, I only find one or two a year now...

10 years ago 05/19/2016 12:36pm EDT

re: Hilarioussss

In other news, the 800s at the Big Ten meet were invalidated because they ran nine athletes on a eight-lane track!

10 years ago 05/19/2016 12:41pm EDT

re: Meat Management

Meat Management wrote:
A few years ago they screwed up d2 cv regionals at UCSD. The leaders ran the wrong way 1/2 way through the race. I think they stopped the race and started it an hour later.

This is why I prefered to be in the back during my college xc days. I was waiting for the day the race is recalled halfway through and I'd be fresh to win the race. I lost my bet as it never happened...

10 years ago 05/19/2016 12:47pm EDT

re: the reviver

the reviver wrote:
Yep, 2011. I remember thinking that even if the lightning had been a real threat, they would have gotten everyone to shelter faster by getting the crowd moving out of there and then dealing with the runners as they finished, rather than doing what they did and having everyone standing around arguing.

That was exactly the case.

And blocking the runners was totally wrong.

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