What breathing pattern do you use?

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Children 12 years of age and older: Breathe in and out. Repeat as needed.

Seriously though, Lydiard once said "breathe through your mouth, breathe through your nose, hell breathe through your ears if you can."

Personally I don't see the sense in co-ordinating your breathing with your stride pattern anyway because it depends how fast you're going.

Breathing always seemed to take care of itself. Not sure I would want to waste my time trying to figure out what breathing pattern I employ.

But hey, maybe it is the key to unlocking one's potential.

Usually don't think much about it, but have noticed that 2-2 seems to work for anything from 10 to 42 km. I've tried 3-3 at slow paces, sort of to keep the pace under control, but I find it pretty uncomfortable. Is this because I prefer a trot to a waltz? Couldn't say.

At 5k pace (intervals), I sometimes find myself breathing 2 in and 1 out.

I sometimes wonder if an asymetrical pattern might help to ward off a stitch in the diaphragm. But then I stop wondering and just breathe however feels good.

Well, I breath every third stroke when warming up, just crusing along or during most of my aerobic development sets. When I am going hard I will try to go right right, left, left, per length. When going all out i will try for just once to the left per length.

You did mean while swimming right? For running I just breath. In when I need some air, out when I need to get rid of some.

Senior Sarcasm wrote:

Well, I breath every third stroke when warming up, just crusing along or during most of my aerobic development sets. When I am going hard I will try to go right right, left, left, per length. When going all out i will try for just once to the left per length.

You did mean while swimming right? For running I just breath. In when I need some air, out when I need to get rid of some.

How do you breath when you run under water?

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I ran for seven years and 14,000 miles without ever once thinking about a breathing pattern.

If Jack Daniels seriously suggested (in writing) to breathe in a rhythm with your footfalls, well, then he is dumber than I thought.

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What he said, minus the miles.

It's one of the most retarded things you can do. Just shut up, run and breathe.

I've read his book and he doens't really say to change or try and control the way you breathe, but only that it can be an indicator of how hard you're working, as in you should be able to breathe slower on easy runs, but not that you shoud consciously change your breathing as you run.

As for me, usually 3-3 as I just get going with my warmup, 2-2 almost all the time for aerobic runs, and 2-1 when my pace is anaerobic. I have heard changing your patten can get rid of stitches, but I haven't actually gotten that to work...

Thanks for the compliment, and for adding another category to my types of people. I've always thought there were only three: (1) dumber than you look -- about 47.5% of the population (2) not as dumb as you look -- also about 47.5% of the population (3) exactly as dumb as you look -- the remaining 5% Not sure which of these three gets narrowed down in order to fit in "dumber than I thought," always something new to ponder

Good one Jack! Typical LetsRun blithering idiots.

When I think about my breathing (admittedly not often), I notice it's maybe 3-3 or 3-4 on easy runs, and possibly 2-2 or faster on interval stuff.

So wait its fine and normal to change or check breathing patterns for swimming but for running its retarded/stupid? That doesnt make too much sense.

Its not a big deal its just another piece of information that you can use. Its like saying checking your heart rate is retarded.

Swimming and running are two different things. All you need do is breath relaxed and that's it. Do you think anyone really worries about 4-4 pattern or a 2-2 pattern? That just sounds retarded. If you have to worry about that you probably suck at running anyways. What good is a breathing pattern going to do you, just hold your breath and die cause your stupid!

Jack,

Add this one, I developed it working in healthcare for twenty + years.

"Half of the population is undermedicated, and half of the population is overmedicated"

Ran awfully ridiculously hard with one of your college runners in Binghamton on Saturday morning. 35:11 for both of us, it was a mid-33 effort in sub z temps. A very nice young man.

what the F are you talking about? Go back to work...quit posting.

Checking your breathing pattern is an excellent way to evaluate not only your own pace but those of your competitors.

For example, on Dec 31 I was in a 5k race with only one other runner to contend with. Just after the halfway mark I threw in a small surge and then relaxed and listened to his breathing. He was breathing 2-2 or 2-1...definitely working too hard for that point in the race so I decided to break contact with him right away and then cruise the rest of the way in.

Also, 3-3 breathing covers a large range of paces, but I know that running as fast as I can but maintaining 3-3 is around LT pace for me.

Pete wrote:

Good one Jack! Typical LetsRun blithering idiots.

When I think about my breathing (admittedly not often), I notice it's maybe 3-3 or 3-4 on easy runs, and possibly 2-2 or faster on interval stuff.

I'm jealous. I can keep it at 2-1 on really easy stuff, but anything approaching marathon pace or faster I switch to 1-1. I attribute it to my asthma - I must have ridiculously low lung capacity.

My grade 10 science experiment (roughly 12 years ago) was on breathing patterns during aerobic exercise. I can't say I discovered anything all that groundbreaking, just that 1-1 breathing was generally less efficient than 2-2 breathing (it resulted in a higher heart rate for same intensity of exercise). This makes a certain amount of sense in that every time you breath you are wasting an amount of air equal to the volume of your mouth and throat (since that part of the air never makes it down into the lungs). So by breathing in for twice the timespan and half as frequently, you minimize that wasted amount (although you are constrained on the upper end by lung volume). Perhaps this reasoning is fallacious -- any thoughts?

Of course, this would suggest that 3-3 breathing would be even better, but not many people can manage it for an intense effort. That said, I believe Marius Bakken has stated in the past that he and many of the elites he trains with use 3-3.