Weight loss for a serious high school runner

Weight loss wrote:

I'm a junior in high school looking to take my times to the next level. I run the 800/mike. And will be doing XC next fall. My training is very serious so I think this is the next step to my success. I am a 4:30 miler and by no means just "participate in track"

I'm 5'9 and weigh 150 lbs. I run 30-40 miles a week, and still weigh this. I'm pretty toned even though I don't lift. Not trying to brag but I guess I'm naturally pretty muscular. I don't think I'm fat or anything, I have a visable 6 pack (to a point).

Would it make sense for me to drop 5-10 pounds over the next few months?

I do eat a ton of junk and always seem to be hungry. Does anyone have any advice on how to go along with losing weight?

Thanks

Two tips, in descending importance (at your age):

1) Run more miles, don't focus to much on the weight thing. If you build up safely to 50-60 over the summer, you're in a good spot. Focus on getting faster rather than lighter. Consistent higher mileage usually leads to lighter anyway.

2) Make an attempt to eat as much whole plant foods as possible, processed as little as possible. Oatmeal rather than sugary cereal, fruit rather than desserts and candy, etc.

That's my $.02.

You're a teenage athlete who's always hungry. Stop worrying about your weight. Eat more. If you want to get faster, run more miles.

Seriously, stop it.

Carefully read and pay attention to the first two responses. Good advice.

Pay no attention whatsoever to the third.

Good luck!

formerD1 wrote:

You're a 4:30 miler and you consider yourself a "serious" runner. Please. You do 800/mile and now XC, you are clueless. Your time is bang average and you don't even know what event you're trying to focus on. .

I take it you set a WR and won the Olympics

How do you know if the op is 12 as no age was given - as usual

Thanks for advice!!

colder and wiser wrote:

You're a teenage athlete who's always hungry. Stop worrying about your weight. Eat more. If you want to get faster, run more miles.

Seriously, stop it.

This. Make some effort to eat more fruits and veg. If you aren't eating much meat, eat some more, and I don't mean hamburger or a Quiznos sandwich. The animal protein should make you less hungry.

this guys a chump, dont listen to him. 4:30 is a good time for a highschool JR. I ran 4:35 in hs and would run the legs off this guy

The guy said he was a junior in HS, learn 2 read.

Lol I ran 4:07 in HS, don't think so. 4:30 wouldn't even make varsity in my HS team.

Thanks.

Science teachers who delve in "coaching" HS athletes shouldn't post here.

You cannot be a serious athlete and not have a clue what event you're specializing in.

An argument could be made that you're an 800/1500 runner, or a 1500/5K runner, but not 800/1500 and 5k. That is just utterly logically inconsistent. The training regime for a 800m runner is so drastically different from a 5k runner that doing one is by nature mutually exclusive with the other. Get that through your head.

Top 800m runners do 30mpw max and spend 100% of their time on the track doing 200-600m repeats. If you add 1 long run each week and/or increase your repeats to include 800-1200m distances bam you have yourself a 1500m runner. If you want to do 5K guess what at most you're doing 3 track workouts a week (most likely 1-2 at the HS level) and a tempo or two a week. All of a sudden you've screwed your chances at the 800m, but you'll be a decent miler.

If you don't even know this much, or don't know whether you want to focus on 800m or the 5k, then you really aren't "serious".

And the HS coach can keep dreaming about coaching elite athletes.

Hey "former D1" - I suspect you're an unbearable douche not just on these boards but also in real life.

And what a stupid handle. You probably have vanity license plates as well.

@FormerD1- If you can't do 800/1500 and 1500/5k at the same time, then why do high schoolers who are dominant 5k runners seem to do so well in the 800 and vice versa? I'm sure there is a divide at some high level, but it seems like for high schoolers the training for each double is quite similar. For example, Ella Donaghu won Oregon state titles in the 1500/3000 her sophomore year and 800/1500 her junior year. How did she pull that off?

formerD1 wrote:

Lol I ran 4:07 in HS, don't think so. 4:30 wouldn't even make varsity in my HS team.

Thanks.

As others have pointed out, ignore this guy.

Asker of possibly stupid quest wrote:

@FormerD1- If you can't do 800/1500 and 1500/5k at the same time, then why do high schoolers who are dominant 5k runners seem to do so well in the 800 and vice versa? I'm sure there is a divide at some high level, but it seems like for high schoolers the training for each double is quite similar. For example, Ella Donaghu won Oregon state titles in the 1500/3000 her sophomore year and 800/1500 her junior year. How did she pull that off?

Don't question formerD1's intellect. The man ran 4:07 in high school.

And also, he was formerly a D1 athlete. Did I mention that?

Es simple math, you run more than you eat. Say you eat 500 calories a day, then you need to run 500 miles. So is better to eat only 50 calories, so you only need to run 50 miles.

formerD1 wrote:

Top 800m runners do 30mpw max and spend 100% of their time on the track doing 200-600m repeats.

Hope this guys trolling, otherwise he's a massive idiot.

formerD1 wrote:

Lol I ran 4:07 in HS, don't think so. 4:30 wouldn't even make varsity in my HS team.

Thanks.

Race me

formerD1 wrote:

That being said you could probably cut 5 lbs or so. Do a body fat analysis. If you're over 5% you're overweight. Cut down to 5%. In college you'll be down to 3-4% depending on how "serious" you are. As you lose weight your 800/mile time may or may not decrease as you are cutting muscle mass as well.

I hope that no one ever takes that advice seriously.

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