BIAS STANFORD ENTRIES

Hey I'm with you there! Small schools get tossed aside all the time. Though I'm salty there isn't anything I can do about it though. Ultimately if I had run faster than I wouldn't be here complaining. Slower athletes from bigger universities will get accepted far more often then slightly faster athletes from small universities. It is what it is.

Run faster if you want to get accepted.

you mad bro?

The Mt Sac Relays

Fastest 10k in the nation? There are only a handful of unattached athletes. It's a fast 10k, but not fastest in the nation. Maybe fastest in the nation on that particular weekend.

Collegiately Speaking

odkd wrote:

Run faster if you want to get accepted.

The point is that he did run faster. And got leapfrogged by slower runners at larger programs. The favoritism is blatant.

I'll admit that most of the names on that list probably don't deserve to be in the Stanford 10k (what was the cutoff, 29:00?), but for a couple of the names, they are not outliers. For instance, Tanner Anderson was NXN champ and almost All-American this fall as a freshman. He deserves to be there over Mr. Hard-Work-Small-D2-School who might sniff at 28:59 but would never be a viable professional. I don't know the other names as well, but I get the sense you cherrypicked times from tfrrs.

What you do in High School doesn't decide who becomes a professional buddy.

I fought this battle for many years. The D1 favoritism has always been incredibly blatant. It's all politics. Fortunately, I had avenues to also play the political game that I could usually squeeze my way into the meet and eventually bump up a couple heats to be in the heat I belonged (not to mention beating many athletes originally accepted over me by 30 seconds to 1 minute in the 5k).

I also love how the entry fee is non-refundable. If you are going to blatantly discriminate against smaller schools, at least give them the entry fee back.

Mt. SAC is run much better option. Also, I've noticed the SF State distance carnival has been getting better each year. Many people are starting to just give up on the Stanford politics and just go to SF State instead.

Mt Sac is faster and began syncing bib numbers last year.

"Entries are at the discretion of met management."

That means they can do whatever they want. It is their meet. Put on your own meet if you want to have a different entry procedure. this is Not John Chaplin abjectly defying USATF (a public organization) rules by giving favors to cronies. This is a private organization doing what they believe is best for their meet. This entitlement has got to stop.

What small school is it that has you posting semi-illiterate thread headers (only "semi" as you actually spelled "Stanford" right)?

I understand your frustration. I would be disappointed too if I didn't get in but some with slower times did.

But you also have to look at it from the perspective of Stanford. There is obviously a lot more interest than spots. Secondly, the 10,000s (and 5000s) are not independent of the rest of the meet, and they want athletes in all events, not just the distances, so it's understandable if they give preference to some schools which bring athletes in many different events over a single athlete who might be the sole representative of their school.

do you mind if I ask where you plan on running instead? I am a D3 athlete who also go left out of the meet.

I ran 14:11 (last 2k alone) this winter and 29:39 last year. My name is Bijan Mazaheri if you want to look me up. We are considering running a 5k at San Franscisco Distance Carnival, if you would like to help build a fast race there.

I'm not sure how many other good people got left out of the race. It does screw over small schools with less funding when they do this. We already bought tickets for San Franscisco because the meet director originally said I would make it in.

ConnorsBoy wrote:

I'll admit that most of the names on that list probably don't deserve to be in the Stanford 10k (what was the cutoff, 29:00?), but for a couple of the names, they are not outliers. For instance, Tanner Anderson was NXN champ and almost All-American this fall as a freshman. He deserves to be there over Mr. Hard-Work-Small-D2-School who might sniff at 28:59 but would never be a viable professional. I don't know the other names as well, but I get the sense you cherrypicked times from tfrrs.

Yeah, some of these guys are definitely better than their 5k/10k prs indicate. Joel Reichow for example was 6th at Midwest Regionals and 36th at NCAA XC champs. He's run sub-30 on an XC course.

50 Shades Of Gray Area wrote:

What small school is it that has you posting semi-illiterate thread headers (only "semi" as you actually spelled "Stanford" right)?

I'm pretty sure i have way more grammatical errors in my actual thread than the header.

I didn't want a header that said " I tried to get into Stanford but couldn't, even though I'm faster than a few people who got in. REVOLT WITH ME!!"

See thats just too much!

D3 athlete wrote:

do you mind if I ask where you plan on running instead? I am a D3 athlete who also go left out of the meet.

I ran 14:11 (last 2k alone) this winter and 29:39 last year. My name is Bijan Mazaheri if you want to look me up. We are considering running a 5k at San Franscisco Distance Carnival, if you would like to help build a fast race there.

I'm not sure how many other good people got left out of the race. It does screw over small schools with less funding when they do this. We already bought tickets for San Franscisco because the meet director originally said I would make it in.

Yes I'm planning on running at the San Francisco Distance Carnival instead, But my teammates and I will be in the 10k. If y'all hop over to the 10k I guarantee we will contribute to building a good race.

What are you guys trying to run? Sub 29?