WR!!! old dudes rule! sean wade goes sub-15 for 5k at 50 years old...

Considering Rees ran 14:53 on the track 13 years ago, it's great for Wade, but otherwise, not exactly all-time history making at the masters level.

David Heath breaking 4:00 last year IMO was way more impressive, and didn't get multiple threads on LRC.

Highly Bekelaselassie wrote:

Considering Rees ran 14:53 on the track 13 years ago, it's great for Wade, but otherwise, not exactly all-time history making at the masters level.

David Heath breaking 4:00 last year IMO was way more impressive, and didn't get multiple threads on LRC.

heath's performances in both the 1500 and 800 were undoubtedly impressive, perhaps more impressive, especially since he is the first and only 50 y/o to break 4 (sorry i didn't start a thread for him--i rarely do these things)...

however, any way you slice it, a world record is still EXACTLY the definition of all-time history making at the masters level.

Another definition of masters history being made is every time Ed Whitlock goes for a training run, or Bill Collins does a track session. There are records, and then there are RECORDS.

What is his PR from when he was younger?

What is so impressive about a bill Collins track workout?

Highly Bekelaselassie wrote:

Considering Rees ran 14:53 on the track 13 years ago, it's great for Wade, but otherwise, not exactly all-time history making at the masters level.

David Heath breaking 4:00 last year IMO was way more impressive, and didn't get multiple threads on LRC.

So a WR is not exactly all-time history making? I'm just a dumb h.s. English teacher, but it seems like that's exactly what a WR is. I get perhaps there are more impressive records, and someone might beat the record someday, but it's a masters WR, and obviously noteworthy. Sheesh. LRC: where your dreams (even when accomplished and are world records) are minimized.

Hopefully I just got trolled.

Highly Bekelaselassie wrote:

Considering Rees ran 14:53 on the track 13 years ago

also curious about what this participial phrase is meant to imply--are you saying that 13 years is so recent that anyone can do it, or that it was so far in the past and it's about time?

either way, i suppose i think both meanings would be nonsense...

ronwilson wrote:

What is his PR from when he was younger?

Mile: 4:02 (1991)

3,000-meter steeplechase: 8:35 (1990)

Half-marathon: 1:03:30 (1995)

Marathon: 2:10:59 (1996)

13:40

socalcush wrote:

14:52.92 age group world record in houston, tx.

who cares about another couple of kenyans whacking a gold medalist while not even breaking 59 minutes in a half marathon--sean wade deserves full-screen banner treatment on letsrun...

Did you SEE the rain??

I'm shocked that they almost managed to break 59 minutes with the storm that hit them in the last few miles.

just wait until the king Haile G. turns 50, that record will be torched.

Apparently the course was short.

Old Mr. wrote:

Apparently the course was short.

And he was on PED's, you forgot to mention that. Also, I believe there's been some doubt thrown up about his age.

socalcush wrote:

14:52.92 age group world record in houston, tx.

Link:

Hadn't heard about the PED thing, but not surprising. Thanks for the heads up.

socalcush wrote:

Highly Bekelaselassie wrote:

Considering Rees ran 14:53 on the track 13 years ago, it's great for Wade, but otherwise, not exactly all-time history making at the masters level.

David Heath breaking 4:00 last year IMO was way more impressive, and didn't get multiple threads on LRC.

heath's performances in both the 1500 and 800 were undoubtedly impressive, perhaps more impressive, especially since he is the first and only 50 y/o to break 4 (sorry i didn't start a thread for him--i rarely do these things)...

however, any way you slice it, a world record is still EXACTLY the definition of all-time history making at the masters level.

Couldn't agree more. Breaking a WR is historic on any level. By LRC standards, one is a hobby jogger if they never broke 15 in their prime. Wade did it at 50. As an over 50 runner myself, I was blown away when over-50 runners Pete McGill ran 15:06, and Mike Blackmore ran 15:12 if memory serves correct. So in addition to dropping the WR, he dropped about 14 seconds off the Masters AR. Pretty impressive.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but just because one "old dude" ran a fast time doesn't make "old dudes rule". Only one old dude "ruled". The rest of 'em, with very few exceptions, run like a bunch of old dudes.

Trolling for dollars wrote:

Sorry to rain on your parade, but just because one "old dude" ran a fast time doesn't make "old dudes rule". Only one old dude "ruled". The rest of 'em, with very few exceptions, run like a bunch of old dudes.

And yet, those old dudes are running faster than you did in your prime.