I've been wondering about my times in the 400m 800m and 1600m. I'm an 8th grade boy. My PR in the 400m is a 60.5. My PR in the 800m is 2:19. My PR in the 1600 is a 5:38. Are those up to par with what most 8th graders run. I'm 6 feet tall and weigh 150 pounds.
No. Most 8th graders don't run track.
Sally V wrote:
No. Most 8th graders don't run track.
+1
I'm pretty sure they don't keep a database of 8th grade runners. Just keep working hard.
''6 feet tall and weigh 150 pounds''
Ok..... In 8th grade.
For an 8th grader the 800 and 400 times are pretty decent. I think you can run a better 1600 though, based on those times. I ran a 5:13 in 8th grade with a 2:23 800 (didn't run the 400). I was able to run track on my high school team that year so I definitely got better training doing that over our middle school program.
The big barriers when I was in 8th grade was breaking 5:00 for the 1600 and 11:00 in the 3200, which in my section maybe 1-2 8th graders did a year, so pretty rare. To be totally honest though 8th grade is just not a great indicator of running potential. Kids at that age are hitting puberty at different rates and it isn't really clear how good people are until junior year of hs. A lot of guys who were roasting me in my 8th grade year I ended up beating by junior and senior year of hs.
I wouldn't worry too much about your times right now. Just work on improving and have fun with it. If you're running up on the hs team especially it's just a great time to get some experience for the upcoming freshman xc season.
Matthewlikesrunning wrote:
I've been wondering about my times in the 400m 800m and 1600m. I'm an 8th grade boy. My PR in the 400m is a 60.5. My PR in the 800m is 2:19. My PR in the 1600 is a 5:38. Are those up to par with what most 8th graders run. I'm 6 feet tall and weigh 150 pounds.
If your 6 feet tall and 150 you should probably be in the high 4's but everything else is pretty dang good nice job!
Shut it up wrote:
Oh shut it up with the complement fishing. You know exactly where you place relative to your competition.
What complements is he fishing for?
60/2:19/5:38 are fairly pedestrian for an 8th grader. Don't get me wrong, by "pedestrian" I don't mean average or below average, but I do mean that it isn't nearly enough to win many if any meets in any decently competitive area. For example, in my area, there is usually a handful of athletes that go sub-5:30 at the League Championship, and that is for a "league" that feeds into high schools of only a combined enrollment of around 3300 (3 high schools). In bigger and/or more competitive areas, I'm sure there are handfuls under 5:00 or close to it.
Person Who Runs wrote:
''6 feet tall and weigh 150 pounds''
Ok..... In 8th grade.
Just means he has hit puberty early, so she should be fast but he isn't, none of these times are good
Yeah the school I go to may have 160 kids in high school. That's why I'm curious cause there aren't many solid runners
You can check for your state on athletic.net, they list many times for middle school meets and you can see how your times stack up
Check out Milesplit.com, they have lists. As a former coach I'd say you are a good runner. Jim Ryun ran a 57 400 as a freshman and they cut him from the team at Wichita East HS, KS. (That says more about Wichita East H.S. at that time than it does about Ryun.)
You can be a good runner. Here is an off-season schedule for you:
Sunday: 5 miles/ 4 x 100 strides @ 80-90% (Never all out this early.)
Monday: 2 miles/ 4 x 100 strides @ 80% of top speed.
Tuesday: 5 miles/ 8 x 100 strides @ 80-90%
Wednesday: 2 miles or Day Off
Thursday: 4 miles Fartlek
Friday: 2-4 miles easy
Saturday: Long Run, depending on what you have done in the recent past.
I would think that if your longest run was 5 miles, you would want to stay with that distance for a few weeks before trying to go 6 miles. If you feel good, run fast. If you feel lousy, either run easy, or take the day off.
Always warm up and cool down before running. You can vary the warm up but usually walking, jogging, dynamic running drills, and/or strides should be included. Cool downs are similar but substitute dynamic drills with stretching.
Because you are still young and growing I would be very careful not to over do it. The main thing to do on your own is to run long, and have days where you change speeds a lot. Do not get caught up running the same pace all the time! When in doubt do less!!!
*Warning, this is not a complete program.
You did not say what your prior running experience was or if you ran cross country. Even so for an 8th grader you are a decent runner. Enjoy the sport!
Oh sorry last year was my first year I seriously ran track and my school no xc for boys
Jed Clampett wrote:
You did not say what your prior running experience was or if you ran cross country. Even so for an 8th grader you are a decent runner. Enjoy the sport!
You are fishing for someone to tell you you're great. You kill people in your own grade I'm sure but you're almost done growing and they're not. They'll catch up. Your efforts to improve are more of an uphill battle than theirs will be.
Jed Clampett wrote:
Check out Milesplit.com, they have lists. As a former coach I'd say you are a good runner. Jim Ryun ran a 57 400 as a freshman and they cut him from the team at Wichita East HS, KS. (That says more about Wichita East H.S. at that time than it does about Ryun.)
You can be a good runner. Here is an off-season schedule for you:
Sunday: 5 miles/ 4 x 100 strides @ 80-90% (Never all out this early.)
Monday: 2 miles/ 4 x 100 strides @ 80% of top speed.
Tuesday: 5 miles/ 8 x 100 strides @ 80-90%
Wednesday: 2 miles or Day Off
Thursday: 4 miles Fartlek
Friday: 2-4 miles easy
Saturday: Long Run, depending on what you have done in the recent past.
I would think that if your longest run was 5 miles, you would want to stay with that distance for a few weeks before trying to go 6 miles. If you feel good, run fast. If you feel lousy, either run easy, or take the day off.
Always warm up and cool down before running. You can vary the warm up but usually walking, jogging, dynamic running drills, and/or strides should be included. Cool downs are similar but substitute dynamic drills with stretching.
Because you are still young and growing I would be very careful not to over do it. The main thing to do on your own is to run long, and have days where you change speeds a lot. Do not get caught up running the same pace all the time! When in doubt do less!!!
*Warning, this is not a complete program.
Thanks for the schedule I will definitely work on my times during offseason. As for the milesplit.com I would try it out but to see rankings requires a secured form of payment. Thanks for the help though!
alright mongo wrote:
You are fishing for someone to tell you you're great. You kill people in your own grade I'm sure but you're almost done growing and they're not. They'll catch up. Your efforts to improve are more of an uphill battle than theirs will be.
You say I'm looking for that but what I'm saying is yes I do win in the majority of track meets in the 800m and 1600m but it's because there may be a total of 10 8th graders running the 800m and maybe 5 in the mile. The level of competition I'm seeking isn't at the track meets my school attends. Therefore I'm checking to see what my times are compared to what they should be. And as for I'm done growing. I actually am one of the last to go through puberty in my grade.
Matthewlikesrunning wrote:
alright mongo wrote:You are fishing for someone to tell you you're great. You kill people in your own grade I'm sure but you're almost done growing and they're not. They'll catch up. Your efforts to improve are more of an uphill battle than theirs will be.
You say I'm looking for that but what I'm saying is yes I do win in the majority of track meets in the 800m and 1600m but it's because there may be a total of 10 8th graders running the 800m and maybe 5 in the mile. The level of competition I'm seeking isn't at the track meets my school attends. Therefore I'm checking to see what my times are compared to what they should be. And as for I'm done growing. I actually am one of the last to go through puberty in my grade.
There are SO MANY ways to see the results of other track meets. If you know about letsrun then you know about milesplit, athletic.net or whatever the main one is in your state. Look there. End of story.
Based on your statements, work on your 200 metres & 400 metres PB. It's possible (no guarantee) to improve one's 400 metres by ten seconds or more from 13 to 23. I see 400 metres potential possibly. Work on breaking 24 for 200 metres by senior year, high school.
alright mongo wrote:
Matthewlikesrunning wrote:You say I'm looking for that but what I'm saying is yes I do win in the majority of track meets in the 800m and 1600m but it's because there may be a total of 10 8th graders running the 800m and maybe 5 in the mile. The level of competition I'm seeking isn't at the track meets my school attends. Therefore I'm checking to see what my times are compared to what they should be. And as for I'm done growing. I actually am one of the last to go through puberty in my grade.
There are SO MANY ways to see the results of other track meets. If you know about letsrun then you know about milesplit, athletic.net or whatever the main one is in your state. Look there. End of story.
Athletic.net doesn't work for me and you have to pay for milesplit.com