McGorty
Mile - 3:53.95
3k - 7:48.79
7th @ NCAA XC '15
8th @ NCAA Outdoor 5k '15
Fisher
Mile - 3:59.38
3k - 7:50.06
17th @ NCAA XC '15
Hunter
Mile - 3:57.81
3k - 7:59.33
McGorty
Mile - 3:53.95
3k - 7:48.79
7th @ NCAA XC '15
8th @ NCAA Outdoor 5k '15
Fisher
Mile - 3:59.38
3k - 7:50.06
17th @ NCAA XC '15
Hunter
Mile - 3:57.81
3k - 7:59.33
What about Yorks?
There are a ton of great athletes including yorks-not all can be named. Why didn't he name donovan brazier? Because these three (along with maybe Maton, Dressel, Tanner Anderson, etc.) have done more than yorks championship and time wise and have a wide range (reason why brazier wasn't mentioned).
schultzj wrote:
There are a ton of great athletes including yorks-not all can be named. Why didn't he name donovan brazier? Because these three (along with maybe Maton, Dressel, Tanner Anderson, etc.) have done more than yorks championship and time wise and have a wide range (reason why brazier wasn't mentioned).
Oh, that's the reason Brazier wasn't mentioned. Thanks for clearing that up. Out of curiosity, which of any of the named athletes has recorded one of the 5 fastest times in the world for any human being alive this season?
If range is being considered, few collegiates are above Yorks. 1:47 and 7:50 this season.
woozy wrote:
McGorty
Mile - 3:53.95
3k - 7:48.79
7th @ NCAA XC '15
8th @ NCAA Outdoor 5k '15
Fisher
Mile - 3:59.38
3k - 7:50.06
17th @ NCAA XC '15
Hunter
Mile - 3:57.81
3k - 7:59.33
Yeah honestly Yorks should be on that list. We all know it takes great 800 wheels to be competitive in a kickers race and Yorks is the only person in the NCAA aside from Ches who has show that kind of strength and speed
Yorks fully deserves to be on that list with 1:47/3:53/7:50
Allie O
What is the point of this thread?
There's an inspiring backstory on Yorks as well which you can't help but root for. Look it up.
Racial Bias wrote:
What about Yorks?
No racial bias: I think the fact that Yorks is a SR, in comparison the noted youth of the other athletes, was the point of the thread. On the youthful side these two deserve to be added for their ridiculous times:
- Brazier, FR (1:45.93)
- Harris, FR (1:46.24)
Other young guys showing legit promise:
- Haney, SOPH (3:56i as a SOPH and 3rd as a FR at NCAA's in the 1500)
- Gilbert, SOPH (7:49i as a FR, 3:59 and 7:50 as a SOPH)
- Morgan, SOPH (3:57 and 7:52 as a SOPH)
- Maton, FR (7:53)
- Bennie, SOPH (13:38)
Dr. Steve Brule wrote:
Racial Bias wrote:What about Yorks?
No racial bias: I think the fact that Yorks is a SR, in comparison the noted youth of the other athletes, was the point of the thread. On the youthful side these two deserve to be added for their ridiculous times:
- Brazier, FR (1:45.93)
- Harris, FR (1:46.24)
Other young guys showing legit promise:
- Haney, SOPH (3:56i as a SOPH and 3rd as a FR at NCAA's in the 1500)
- Gilbert, SOPH (7:49i as a FR, 3:59 and 7:50 as a SOPH)
- Morgan, SOPH (3:57 and 7:52 as a SOPH)
- Maton, FR (7:53)
- Bennie, SOPH (13:38)
If you are projecting future success based on times at 18 to 19 year olds performance you will likely be disappointed at the results.
Actually, Yorks is only a year older than McGorty who redshirted track his frosh year. McGorty's a junior academically, a year behind Yorks and a year ahead of sophs like Justin Knight and 2 years up on the current terrific frosh class.
Yorks has always been a competent college xc runner who really stepped up this fall to finish 3rd at Pac-12s, just a sec behind McGorty and ahead of all the CO boys. Per U-Dub website, highest WA guy finish ever at the conference meet. Then, 30th at NCAAs to earn AA honors.
Improved background endurance appears to be the reason for such a huge jump in mile performance, from running 3:57.9 to win last year's MPSF to 3:53.9 on Saturday.
Not sure of the rules, but hope those times from Saturday qualify Yorks & McGorty for the Oly Trials.
QuietObserver wrote:
woozy wrote:McGorty
Mile - 3:53.95
3k - 7:48.79
7th @ NCAA XC '15
8th @ NCAA Outdoor 5k '15
Fisher
Mile - 3:59.38
3k - 7:50.06
17th @ NCAA XC '15
Hunter
Mile - 3:57.81
3k - 7:59.33
Yeah honestly Yorks should be on that list. We all know it takes great 800 wheels to be competitive in a kickers race and Yorks is the only person in the NCAA aside from Ches who has show that kind of strength and speed
Ah hold on a second... Fisher out kicked Yorks in the 3k on Yorks' home turf. Yorks had races under his belt (sub 4 and sub 1:48 indoors) at that time and Fisher jumped in the race off of strength work for the win.
Are we talking about doing well in future American championships, or are we talking about a global standard of future success?
it looks bright but theres no guarentee all,or any of these runners will improve,or go on to world class.a lot of promising young runners burn out,get injured,or fail to improve,and quit.
Can't believe Yorks is married. Crazy
yorks wrote:
If range is being considered, few collegiates are above Yorks. 1:47 and 7:50 this season.
Nope, range isn't being considered. Does that bother you? He was just posting some names that show that "the future of American distance running looks VERY bright".
Get it?
There are many others he could have added, but just because he didn't cite them does not mean they aren't part of the "bright future".
Get it?
explainme wrote:
schultzj wrote:
There are a ton of great athletes including yorks-not all can be named. Why didn't he name donovan brazier? Because these three (along with maybe Maton, Dressel, Tanner Anderson, etc.) have done more than yorks championship and time wise and have a wide range (reason why brazier wasn't mentioned).
Oh, that's the reason Brazier wasn't mentioned. Thanks for clearing that up. Out of curiosity, which of any of the named athletes has recorded one of the 5 fastest times in the world for any human being alive this season?
Maybe it was because he was talking about "American distance running"? As great as Brazier is, he has not shown any interest (nor has his coach) in distance running.
jeff tallon wrote:
it looks bright but theres no guarentee all,or any of these runners will improve,or go on to world class.a lot of promising young runners burn out,get injured,or fail to improve,and quit.
Right, rewind about 15 years ago and the same things were being said of Webb, Hall, and Ritz, with them being labeled "the big three."
Obviously all three went on to have success, but it wasn't the long lasting dominance of American distance running that people were hoping for. They each had moments where they were near or at the top, but it wasn't as enduring as I'm sure they had hoped, obviously with Webb especially.
That is why I disagree with people trying to pick three now. The depth of our current crop of young american distance runners is unprecedented. There are a solid dozen 17 to 19 year olds of each gender that are showing the potential to go on to become world-beaters, not just three like in 2000 or 2001. This leads me to believe that we are at a point where American distance running likely will begin to reach dominance on the world stage again. With that deep of a field of potential, not only will there be a better chance a handful make it to that top level, but they will also feed off of each other and push each other for the next decade.