say what you will,this is an amazing race to watch.kratochvilova and koch were awesome,super talented athletes,and we havent seen their like,since.Yes they likely took industrial strength steroids,but the talent had to be there,to begin with.Its interesting that even with todays full time athletes,drugs,and training improvements,no woman can come close to jarmila kratochvilova,or marita koch.
Quite a beatdown. Where was Marita Koch at the 1983 championships?
You can almost see the syringe marks on her arms.
marita was concentrating on the shorter sprints that year.she won the 200,at the world championships.its a pity she wasnt in that race,though.if she had been,it would have been a cracker.
It's just a shame that with all that focus on athletics she missed out on her chance to compete for the Miss Universe crown.
jeff tallon wrote:
Its interesting that even with todays full time athletes,drugs,and training improvements,no woman can come close to jarmila kratochvilova,or marita koch.
It's really not that interesting. It just means steroids are really, really effective.
What is interesting is that athletes had been using steroids at least since the 40s, but there were still people arguing that they were not effective and athletes were mainly benefiting from a placebo effect until the 80s. That sounds familiar.
i wonder how fast kratochvilova and koch,would have been,if they ran drug free? we'll never ever know.jarmila especially,must have been on a high dose,and worked her butt off.Her receptors must have been great,as wellI.Id say she could have run under 51 seconds,perhaps up to 50.5 in the 400,without drugs,and maybe 1.58 in the 800.The talent had to be there,in the first place,even if the drugs made her look,and run,like a man.
If Seb Coe wants to bring attention back to the sport and create interest again he'll throw out all of these ridiculously drugged up records and start fresh. How the IAAF can even post that video on the internet and not blink and eye is pathetic. She was so full of steroids that it's pathetic and sad to even watch it. Sadly Seb Coe was most likely a doper himself so he prob doesn't care the slightest which is why nothing is going to change under his rule. There needs to be new blood in the leadership ranks across the board within the IAAF that hasn't taken part in doping themselves or covering up doping for others.
Jarmila needs to come forward and request her records be removed from the books.
thats all true,but jarmila to this day,denies ever using performance enhancing drugs,despite what is very obvious.the first time i ever saw a picture of jarmila was in a book in a library,about athletics world records.this was in the late 1980s,and i was in my teens.at first i thought i was looking at a man,and my jaw dropped when i read she was a woman.
Look at that arm pit hair:
http://www.atleticalive.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/kratochvilova.jpg
Mr. Obvious wrote:
jeff tallon wrote:Its interesting that even with todays full time athletes,drugs,and training improvements,no woman can come close to jarmila kratochvilova,or marita koch.
It's really not that interesting. It just means steroids are really, really effective.
Ditto.
Seb Coen wrote:
If Seb Coe wants to bring attention back to the sport and create interest again he'll throw out all of these ridiculously drugged up records and start fresh.
Yes, he needs to disqualify himself and his drugged up times immediately.
Bill Walker wrote:
Look at that arm pit hair:
http://www.atleticalive.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/kratochvilova.jpg
I'd hit it!
Two others were with Kratochvilova at the start of the home stretch, and one was still with her with 50 meters to go.
The pace was very even throughout, with the first 200m at 23.2
Kratochvilova's rhythm down the final home stretch was the difference.
Her build was very heavy and muscular, which is quite typical for the type of resistance training that she did, not that it helped her at all with her running.
The announcer at the end of the video says the race (the 400) that was once called, "A man killer."
I'd hit it!
you need jesus!
See the actual current 400m world record. 47.60 Marita Koch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgtI9vIfxtw
I was watching the 1983 World Championships live with my grandmother in Sweden. When she saw Kratochvilova, she said, "that's a man."
If you watch the documentaries about East German doping (programs were current throughout the Eastern Bloc), you see that they were pumping the women full of steroids from the early teen years. They trained an enormous amount, aided by the steroids and other drugs. Notice that 2nd in that race is another Czech, probably just a few years behind on the doping regimen. And there are multiple other Eastern Bloc dopers in the field. The only non-Eastern European runners are Sanya Richards, Cathy Freeman (48.63), Marie-Jose Perec (48.25), Ana Guevara, and Valerie Brisco. Perec was the only one among them to get within a second of the world record. Among them, the non-Eastern Europeans included, I would doubt that more than one (Richards) is clean.
Here are all the sub-49s run outdoors:
All-time women's best 400m
1 47.60 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Canberra 06.10.1985
2 47.99 Jarmila KratochvÃlová CZE 26.01.51 1 Helsinki 10.08.1983
3 48.16 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 AthÃnai 08.09.1982
3 48.16 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1rA Praha 17.08.1984
5 48.22 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Stuttgart 28.08.1986
6 48.25 Marie-José Pérec FRA 09.05.68 1 Atlanta 29.07.1996
7 48.26 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Dresden 27.07.1984
8 48.27 Olga Bryzgina UKR 30.06.63 2 Canberra 06.10.1985
9 48.45 Jarmila KratochvÃlová CZE 26.01.51 1 Praha 23.07.1983
10 48.59 Tatána Kocembová CZE 02.05.62 2 Helsinki 10.08.1983
11 48.60 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Torino 04.08.1979
11 48.60 Olga Bryzgina UKR 30.06.63 1 Moskva 17.08.1985
13 48.61 Jarmila KratochvÃlová CZE 26.01.51 1 Roma 06.09.1981
14 48.63 Cathy Freeman AUS 16.02.73 2 Atlanta 29.07.1996
15 48.65 Olga Bryzgina UKR 30.06.63 1 Seoul 26.09.1988
16 48.70 Sanya Richards-Ross USA 26.02.85 1 AthÃnai 16.09.2006
17 48.73 Tatána Kocembová CZE 02.05.62 2rA Praha 17.08.1984
18 48.77 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Karl-Marx-Stadt 09.07.1982
19 48.82 Jarmila KratochvÃlová CZE 26.01.51 1 Praha 23.06.1983
20 48.83 Valerie Brisco USA 06.07.60 1 Los Angeles 06.08.1984
20 48.83 Marie-José Pérec FRA 09.05.68 1 Barcelona 05.08.1992
20 48.83 Sanya Richards-Ross USA 26.02.85 1 Bruxelles 04.09.2009
23 48.85 Jarmila KratochvÃlová CZE 26.01.51 2 AthÃnai 08.09.1982
24 48.86 Jarmila KratochvÃlová CZE 26.01.51 1 Zürich 18.08.1982
24 48.86 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Erfurt 02.06.1984
26 48.87 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Bruxelles 27.08.1982
27 48.88 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Moskva 28.07.1980
28 48.89 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Potsdam 29.07.1979
28 48.89 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Berlin 15.07.1984
28 48.89 Ana Guevara MEX 04.03.77 1 Saint-Denis 27.08.2003
31 48.92 Sanya Richards-Ross USA 26.02.85 1 Zürich 19.08.2005
32 48.94 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Praha 31.08.1978
32 48.94 Sanya Richards-Ross USA 26.02.85 1 Zürich 28.08.2009
34 48.96 Olga Bryzgina UKR 30.06.63 1 Leningrad 03.08.1985
35 48.97 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Montréal 26.08.1979
35 48.97 Marita Koch GDR 18.02.57 1 Berlin 22.09.1985
37 48.98 Olga Bryzgina UKR 30.06.63 1 Kiev 22.06.1984
Notes on the race wrote:
Two others were with Kratochvilova at the start of the home stretch, and one was still with her with 50 meters to go.
The pace was very even throughout, with the first 200m at 23.2
Kratochvilova's rhythm down the final home stretch was the difference.
Her build was very heavy and muscular, which is quite typical for the type of resistance training that she did, not that it helped her at all with her running.
She actually didn't do a whole lot of resistance training, in fact, most female athletes didn't do a lot resistance training back then.
You really think Cathy Freeman was a doper?
