Article blames Trump's popularity on Political Correctness

DiscoGary wrote:

This article gets it exactly right about why (normal) people are supporting Trump. He gets too harsh and triggers Godwin's Law at the end, but the core of the analysis is correct:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/04/how-the-p-c-police-propelled-donald-trump.html

Anyone who is baffled by Trump's popularity should read this.

I would add one thing though. The Republican Establishment deserves some blame for this as well, because they refuse to fight any of the crony capitalist, socialist, lawless, economically unsustainable, big government policies they claim to be against, so many old-school Republicans simply don't trust their leaders anymore.

PC oppression + Republican surrender = Trump

So 40% of the republican party are single issue political correctness voters? Nonsense. He appeals to white males who dream of the days when they were the vast majority.

Have you seen videos of his rallies? He spends 45 minutes talking about how he's doing in the polls, 10 minutes talking about who treated him unfairly that week. And the last 5 mocking a demographic that isn't an old white non-disabled male. He then proclaims he's making America great again as the crowd roars. Not sure I'd call these people "normal".

... and someone immediately shows up to prove me right.

DiscoGary wrote:

... and someone immediately shows up to prove me right.

... says The Donald.

DiscoGary wrote:

This article gets it exactly right about why (normal) people are supporting Trump. He gets too harsh and triggers Godwin's Law at the end, but the core of the analysis is correct:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/04/how-the-p-c-police-propelled-donald-trump.html

Anyone who is baffled by Trump's popularity should read this.

I would add one thing though. The Republican Establishment deserves some blame for this as well, because they refuse to fight any of the crony capitalist, socialist, lawless, economically unsustainable, big government policies they claim to be against, so many old-school Republicans simply don't trust their leaders anymore.

Zio oppression & hypocrisy + Paid off Dems and Repubs = inevitable collapse and civil war

FIFY

This is great news.

If the left created the success of Donald Trump then it it did a good job of helping the Democrat party and hurting the Republicans.

And normal people aren't supporting Trump, by the way.

Most normal people do not support him.

His political incorrectness will hurt in the long run.

L L wrote:

If the left created the success of Donald Trump then it it did a good job of helping the Democrat party and hurting the Republicans.

And normal people aren't supporting Trump, by the way.

Most normal people do not support him.

His political incorrectness will hurt in the long run.

If you think that all of Trump's supporters are not "normal" then you need to read the article, because the article is saying that YOU are the problem. YOU created Trump. If he wins, it's your fault. And I agree.

If you think Trump can't win, then you don't understand how many people are sick of political correctness. You don't know them but they are all around you. They just want to keep their jobs, so they keep their mouths shut. They talk to me though, and they all say they are sick of being blamed for crap they didn't do. They will support ANYONE who will fight that, and that's a "normal" reaction to being endlessly mocked for your race or age or religion or political beliefs.

People who like Trump are not motivated by political correctness. They are motivated by the fact that Trump has essentially allowed people with all sorts of racists, xenophobic and sexist ideas the opportunity to come out of the shadows and have a voice in politics. This has happened on a much smaller scale before with candidates like Pat "culture war" Buchanan. But no one has been so eager to push all the ugly populist buttons that Trump is pushing without flinching when called out on each gaff.

Finger pointing will do you no good. The past is gone. Society is more politically correct now. As expected, there are some people who can't adapt. They'll just have to get used to being a minority, as all minority groups have had to do in the past.

Precious Roy wrote:

People who like Trump are not motivated by political correctness. They are motivated by the fact that Trump has essentially allowed people with all sorts of racists, xenophobic and sexist ideas the opportunity to come out of the shadows and have a voice in politics. This has happened on a much smaller scale before with candidates like Pat "culture war" Buchanan. But no one has been so eager to push all the ugly populist buttons that Trump is pushing without flinching when called out on each gaff.

Right. Everyone who disagrees with you is a racist.

You are confirming the thesis of the article. I try to tell you what is happening, but you just fall back on your standard bigotry. You liberals are so blinded by hatred that you are incapable of learning.

Just keep telling 10's of millions of innocent people that they are racist, xenophobic, sexist, etc. That will have consequences.

How is 40% of the voting population so upset in the first place? Unemployment is very low, people are making money, we're generally safe from foreign threats (way more risk from internal sources), freedoms abound, etc.

Is it just hurt feelings from being "endlessly" mocked?

XY wrote:

How is 40% of the voting population so upset in the first place? Unemployment is very low, people are making money, we're generally safe from foreign threats (way more risk from internal sources), freedoms abound, etc.

Is it just hurt feelings from being "endlessly" mocked?

It's 40% of the GOP, which is about 15% of the voting population. They're upset that there's a societal and government push away from their core principles. A lot of these people were born before Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in baseball. It's a natural process of resistance to change by a small minority group.

Again, no sign of learning here. This isn't finger pointing, it's explaining what's happening.

Is there any liberal here who can understand that accusing every white person of having "White Privilege" will turn a lot innocent white people who haven't enjoyed any privileges to turn against the people who promote that?

Is there any liberal here concerned that calling all old white Christians racist and ignorant is unfair to a majority of old white Christians?

Is there any liberal here who sees everyone as an individual as opposed to a member of some balkanized special interest group?

No. You won't find one. That's the problem, but it is a problem you will never be able to see. The people who can see the problem will support Trump, and you'll never understand why. You will react by heaping more insults on the people you don't understand thinking that somehow that will make them shut up and go away. It won't work anymore.

Sure, a lot of white people are sick of being blamed for every problem by a small group of activists. Fine. That doesn't mean that the logical response to this frustration is to support a disgusting racist for president who has offered no concrete policy proposals besides deporting and banning millions of people. People are supporting him because of their prejudices. Liberals may have had some role in helping Trump rise, but it doesn't matter because he has no chance of becoming president as long as minorities and educated people vote.

Also, you might be well-served to learn what white privilege is. Hint: it isn't the same thing as calling white people racists.

osm wrote:

Sure, a lot of white people are sick of being blamed for every problem by a small group of activists. Fine. That doesn't mean that the logical response to this frustration is to support a disgusting racist for president who has offered no concrete policy proposals besides deporting and banning millions of people. People are supporting him because of their prejudices. Liberals may have had some role in helping Trump rise, but it doesn't matter because he has no chance of becoming president as long as minorities and educated people vote.

Also, you might be well-served to learn what white privilege is. Hint: it isn't the same thing as calling white people racists.

It isn't a "small group of activists", it's the entire Democrat party, every government institution, every academic institution, Hollywood, pop culture and most media.

... and you're right, the logical response would be to turn to the other political party and ask them to fight it, but the Republican Establishment has sided with the Democrats on this, so there's no one left to turn to.

White Privilege: Convincing innocent white people that they are guilty of all racial injustices since the beginning of time so that they will accept their role as second class citizens in society and give up their money and positions to those who have victim status. I think that captures the spirit of the thing, don't you?

osm wrote:

Sure, a lot of white people are sick of being blamed for every problem by a small group of activists. Fine. That doesn't mean that the logical response to this frustration is to support a disgusting racist for president who has offered no concrete policy proposals besides deporting and banning millions of people. People are supporting him because of their prejudices. Liberals may have had some role in helping Trump rise, but it doesn't matter because he has no chance of becoming president as long as minorities and educated people vote.

Also, you might be well-served to learn what white privilege is. Hint: it isn't the same thing as calling white people racists.

Agreed.

Disco, have you even listened to his speeches? You'll hear things like "I'm not just going to do a good job, but a very very good job" and "We're going to look at that and we're going to look at other things too". He says nothing substantive except when he speaks about immigrants and political correctness.

He doesn't have support from republicans or democrats in congress. A Trump presidency would be an absolute disaster and everyone would lose. It just goes to show the lack of education and foresight of his supporters. If they want the country to move in their direction, their best interest is to nominate a GOP candidate with the best chance of beating Hillary. They are mesmerized by Trump, and can't think even one step ahead.

DiscoGary wrote:

Is there any liberal here who sees everyone as an individual as opposed to a member of some balkanized special interest group?

No. You won't find one.

The irony here is a tad heavy handed, but it did make me chuckle.

White privilege is the simple acknowledgment that racism still exists in America, and that by being born white, you will not experience institutionalized oppression based on race. That doesn't make "innocent white people" guilty of anything, it just means that they are fortunate.

Many people go way further than this and do demonize all white people, but the basic concept is pretty easy to understand.

I've heard his speeches, and I have no idea what he would do as President. Yet, I would still vote for him. Why would I do that? Do you think I have been fooled? What do I KNOW will happen if Trump wins?

That's what I'm trying to teach you guys, and it's easy to understand if you can dial back the bigotry and hatred for a second and open your minds to the possibility that there is a logical reason for reasonable people to vote for Trump.

I linked the article to help with that. Read it. It was written by a rabid liberal so you all should find it very satisfying. He insults the Hell out of Trump supporters.