Does anyone know why the entry standards are so tough for the world indoors?
Look at the men's 800m, 1:46 was the qualifying for WC in Beijing - now 1:44.00 for the indoors? There will be hardly any athletes!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_World_Championships_in_Athletics_qualification_standards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_IAAF_World_Indoor_Championships
Anybody know why?
They don't want many athletes because the track is very small.
The indoor standard for the 800 is 1:46.5
If you are using an outdoor time to qualify, it needs to be 1:44
Yeah, 1:46.5 indoors compared to 1:46.00 outdoors is far more difficult.
1:44.00 outdoors as a qualifying standard is so tough! Only 13 men ran that last year.
Other tough standards on there:
1:58.5 for women 800m outdoors
1.97m womens high jump
13.45 110h
Is there a B standard?
Because they want less people than the outdoors.
It's not rocket science.
trollism wrote:
Because they want less people than the outdoors.
fewer people
It's not rocket science.
maybe it is.
Indeed
Only one US guy has the 800m standard and two have the 1500m standard.
If you look at last winter, no US guy achieved 1:46.5.
It will be very small fields indeed. Straight finals, I assume, as many guys that do have actually have the standard do not run indoors (or care to go to indoor WC even if they do a few indoor races).
Yyvfvyfvgybgy wrote:
Indeed
Only one US guy has the 800m standard and two have the 1500m standard.
If you look at last winter, no US guy achieved 1:46.5.
It will be very small fields indeed. Straight finals, I assume, as many guys that do have actually have the standard do not run indoors (or care to go to indoor WC even if they do a few indoor races).
The idea is to minimize the number who qualify using an outdoor mark. If a country has nobody with an indoor mark to send, they can still ensure that a potential medalist can go based on outdoor marks. Anybody else has to get an indoor mark to qualify.
It isnt to keep the fields small, it is to encourage people to actually run indoors to qualify for indoors.
trolololo wrote:
Yyvfvyfvgybgy wrote:Indeed
Only one US guy has the 800m standard and two have the 1500m standard.
If you look at last winter, no US guy achieved 1:46.5.
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It isnt to keep the fields small, it is to encourage people to actually run indoors to qualify for indoors.
You may have missed the fact that zero US guys ran 1:46.5 indoors. This from the country which has the most extensive indoor circuit...
trollism wrote:
Because they want less people than the outdoors.
It's not rocket science.
In that case switch from the time domain to the frequency domain, and the answer will be clear.
The indoor standards are much easier because they would prefer you qualify with an indoor race but wouldn't exclude a stud who ran really fast outdoor.
12 women... Finals only. Very unlikely that the US has an athlete competing, unless McPherson gets an early reinstatement.
Please explain wrote:
1.97m womens high jump
For the 800 they have just a 6 man final and only take 18 to the meet and run a semi and a final.
For outdoors, they had 45 entrants running 3 rounds and an 8 man final.
They only take a maximum of two per country per event indoors.
Smaller track. Shorter meet (in number of days).
So, iInteresting . . . recently interviewed Centro and Hill in . . . Robby and Leo out.
NOPers Cain, Hasay, Moser not allowed on the athlete's infield.
This being an olympic year may be this is a good incentive. If you want to make the ultimate show you are going to have to perform at the highest level.
HardLoper wrote:
The indoor standards are much easier because they would prefer you qualify with an indoor race but wouldn't exclude a stud who ran really fast outdoor.
Zero US guys ran 1:46.5 last indoor season
One US guy ran sub 1:44.0 last outdoor season
Indoor standard is not "much" easier than outdoor standard.
1:46.5 indoors is much harder than 1:46 outdoors. These standards are far too tough. World indoors is not even as popular as outdoors, many athletes will skip them to focus on Olympics/Europeans. Therefore the standards should be easier than the Beijing WCs.
We would have only 13 athletes in the men's 800m max.
13 in women's 3000m
12 in women's 800m
11 men's high jump
7 women in the high jump.
The whole competition could be done in a day!
Yes. The listed standards are very tough.
It doesn't say, but they must go down the list and let others in to fill the fields.
Better that than having too many qualified and have additional heats.
Yyvfvyfvgybgy wrote:
Zero US guys ran 1:46.5 last indoor season
One US guy ran sub 1:44.0 last outdoor season
Indoor standard is not "much" easier than outdoor standard.
That sounds about right. No Americans were competitive on the world scene last year.