'bees are all i've used the last for the last 4 years--used to use the original eldorets--has same sort of fit but feels like less on your feet--i dig em--puma makes a dist spike with harambee upper and little more stabitity in the last--supposed to give a little more support but you pay for it with a little weight--but the bees are sweet
kind of like a straight razor for shaving--most people perfer a noodley multi blade with lotsa gooey lube strips--but if you know what yer doing the strait razor is precision--thats the harambees