Kenenisa Bekele might run in the 10,000m in Rio de Janeiro 2016.

Loved your post.

You are wrong, of course. But still, nice post!

larkimm wrote:

Even as a massive Mo fan, I don't think that Mo would have had the beating of KB in his prime. We'll simply never know...

The two are less than a year apart in age. How is that one (KB) is assumed too old to peak, and the other (Mo) is not?

Prime Numbers wrote:

larkimm wrote:

Even as a massive Mo fan, I don't think that Mo would have had the beating of KB in his prime. We'll simply never know...

The two are less than a year apart in age. How is that one (KB) is assumed too old to peak, and the other (Mo) is not?

Maybe by the fact that one just ran 3:28 for 1500, won 5000 and 10000 gold with devastating kicks while the other was MIA.

Prime Numbers wrote:

larkimm wrote:

Even as a massive Mo fan, I don't think that Mo would have had the beating of KB in his prime. We'll simply never know...

The two are less than a year apart in age. How is that one (KB) is assumed too old to peak, and the other (Mo) is not?

Not everyone reaches their physical peak and begins to go downhill at the same age.

Glad I could help clear that up for you.

what actually happened wrote:

Kick it Out wrote:

If you watch the race Bekele raced ahead of Farah with about a mile to go. Farah tried to keep up but could not. Bekele slowed down towards the end, letting Farah catch back up; Farah maybe thinking he could win. Bekele out ran him to the finish. Maybe outracing Farah, and out kicking him at the end. What is interesting about that race was Bekele slowing down and then taking off again.

What is also interesting is that Bekele got dropped earlier in the race. Bekele didn't actually outkick Farah, he just was more comfortable going down the last hill where Farah was hurting and cautious. Farah finished faster but not fast enough.

What is even more interesting is that Bekele most certainly did NOT got dropped earlier in the race. He made a tactical decision to drop behind and let Geb and Mo churn to try to drop him.

Do you even follow this sport?

Primier Numbers wrote:

Prime Numbers wrote:

The two are less than a year apart in age. How is that one (KB) is assumed too old to peak, and the other (Mo) is not?

Not everyone reaches their physical peak and begins to go downhill at the same age.

Glad I could help clear that up for you.

Aargh, I think you must have missed the LR memo.

Mo isn't allowed to have developed at a different rate than KB because (obvs) he must be doping. It is only allowed that runners can peak at exactly the same rate, and that has to be the same rate as (Bekele / Geb / Viren / [insert favourite runner here] - delete as appropriate).

larkimm wrote:

Primier Numbers wrote:

Not everyone reaches their physical peak and begins to go downhill at the same age.

Glad I could help clear that up for you.

Aargh, I think you must have missed the LR memo.

Mo isn't allowed to have developed at a different rate than KB because (obvs) he must be doping. It is only allowed that runners can peak at exactly the same rate, and that has to be the same rate as (Bekele / Geb / Viren / [insert favourite runner here] - delete as appropriate).

Got it. Thanks.

I won't make the same mistake again.

larkimm wrote:

Primier Numbers wrote:

Not everyone reaches their physical peak and begins to go downhill at the same age.

Glad I could help clear that up for you.

Aargh, I think you must have missed the LR memo.

Mo isn't allowed to have developed at a different rate than KB because (obvs) he must be doping. It is only allowed that runners can peak at exactly the same rate, and that has to be the same rate as (Bekele / Geb / Viren / [insert favourite runner here] - delete as appropriate).

Mo has remained injury free while training at a higher level than KB. Salazar and Mo have special access to the fountain of youth. Fascinating stuff going on.

oh please wrote:

Prime Numbers wrote:

The two are less than a year apart in age. How is that one (KB) is assumed too old to peak, and the other (Mo) is not?

Maybe by the fact that one just ran 3:28 for 1500, won 5000 and 10000 gold with devastating kicks while the other was MIA.

No, wrong. Very slow pace with a fast finish. Bekele proved he could defeat Farah's devasting kick in an honest pace race.

Prime Numbers wrote:

Mo has remained injury free while training at a higher level than KB. Salazar and Mo have special access to the fountain of youth. Fascinating stuff going on.

Ah, so now there is a magic injury prevention drug too, sorry, missed that. Thanks for clearing things up!!

larkimm wrote:

Prime Numbers wrote:

Mo has remained injury free while training at a higher level than KB. Salazar and Mo have special access to the fountain of youth. Fascinating stuff going on.

Ah, so now there is a magic injury prevention drug too, sorry, missed that. Thanks for clearing things up!!

Mo is a once in a lifetime talent. It is not his fault he did not know he was as good as Kenny B at the same age, otherwise the 5k and 10k WRs might well belong to Mo.

Agip wrote:

No chance. Kb is done like a well done burger.

Watching the pathetic spectacle that the OG 10,000 has become (Rupp slowest silver since 1992 lol), he rightly figures that even being "done" he can beat the current chumps.

Lagat should get in, to, just to show what a joke these guys are compared to the real greats.

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nonsense

he wouda have to run him him into ground from gun solo & that ain't happening

he wouda needed the other 2 ethiopians to sacrifice themselves to 8k in km swapping pacing

it woud be still close affair even if kennster couda got the broz to do it

Kamwo was capable of

~ 26-flat/low

on temperate day paced to 5k with solo last 5k, if his other kenyans wouda killed themselves to drag him thru in 13'15 / 21'15 in that brutal heat, but they woudn't & Kamwo coud never outkick mo in a slow race

mo likely had 3'26-mid speed !!!

nonsense

geb/kennster woud have wanted to face mo in a 10k let alone a 5k in a games

mo is quantum level above in terms of scientific back-up

he is "ultimate" distance/middle-distance track machine

a scientific project of best legal adjuncts crystallized into fruition

canova has said he coud get numerous 3'25 kenyans if he had that eugene set-up

even at kennster's peak, i'd still go with mo

now ?

not a chance in hell

ventolin^3 wrote:

even at kennster's peak, i'd still go with mo

now ?

not a chance in hell

You are wrong. Not for the first time. Not for the last time.

Pay attention. Mo can't win when there is an honest pace. Slow, maybe. Fast, no.

eh ?

i post under my own handle only

the poster is not wrong

those guys were africans with limited earning & had to chase wrs for a living

mo is a brit, where winning titles will earn him x5 to x10 the zlotys that breaking a wr woud

of course he'd like any of 1500/3k/5k/10k wrs, but makes no $ sense in chasing one(s) & wrecking a gold possibility

i'll let you cognitate on coupla points

- when geb ran that 1/2M v kennster & mo coupla years ago, he mentioned beforehand on tv he was running against a "3'28 guy" & his his eyes opened wide in awe !!!

that told me that geb had ultimate respect for mo & knows that his not having a serious 5k/10k pb is nonsense not worth a mention

it also "told" me, geb knew he himself never had 3'28 in him

- mo's 3'28.9 this year was toughest 1500 i have ever seen outsida Keino's mexico gold after murderous number of rounds

mo, effectively ran it solo as Asbel was too far gone from start & mo drafted for the pack long way behind asbel

go watch the race & then stop talking nonsense about mo not wanting to "lead"

mo led maloofi, iguider et al all the way to bell, got passed & even came back at them to lose by fraction !

if mo's camp had paid for 2nd set of pacers, i have no doubt in smoothly paced run to bell he wouda gone at worst :

3'27-flat !!!

& more likely

~ 3'26-mid

before you ask, i reckon Asbel was capable of 3'25-high that day but 1st lap was stoopidly quick

leading the pack ~ 3 laps in superfast 1500 makes mo a legend IMO

like i said, IMO, he was in 3'26-mid shape that day if perfect race with 2nd set of pacers

that is off 5k/10k training !!!

i have little doubt that if he'd concentrated full-time on 1500 from '11 when he joined sal, he wouda broken the 1500 wr !!!

like i said

my 1st post here

again, mo is different beast to them

geb was in awe of him

kennster is an ungenerous protagonist to offer mo any kudos

kennster is an ungenerous protagonist in a race :

if anyone can find it, go try upload the 1500 in '06 stockholm where he pushed kaouch almost into lane 3 to prevent being overtaken & won 3'33.0 v 3'33.3

it was most disgraceful etiquette in an elite race i have seen on an outdoor track where offender was not dq'ed !!!

find the race & learn how much of a disgraceful etiquette kennster has

mo is a talent who couda been 1500 wr holder to this day if he'd chosen that event over 5k/10k

IMO, that smashes any achievements anything those ethiopian marvels ever did as 1500wr ability is trump card in middle/distance track running

ventolin^3 wrote:

kennster is an ungenerous protagonist to offer mo any kudos

kennster is an ungenerous protagonist in a race :

if anyone can find it, go try upload the 1500 in '06 stockholm where he pushed kaouch almost into lane 3 to prevent being overtaken & won 3'33.0 v 3'33.3

it was most disgraceful etiquette in an elite race i have seen on an outdoor track where offender was not dq'ed !!!

find the race & learn how much of a disgraceful etiquette kennster has

"A narrow --and controversial-- 1500m win by Kenenisa Bekele...

Running in his debut over the distance, Bekele took the lead heading into the backstretch, a lead he carried into the final straight, when Moroccan Adil Kaouch began to make his move. Kaouch, running to the outside of Bekele, made up significant ground in the final 40 meters, and looked to be on his way to victory when the Ethiopian began to run wide, drifting from the edge of lane one into lane three over the final critical meters. He brushed Kaouch just before the line, to win in 3:33.08. With his rhythm impeded, Kaouch crossed the line shaking his head, while Isaac Songok of Kenya snuck by on the inside to finish second in 3:33.25, 11/100s ahead of Kaouch"

utter disgrace

this account from top source is very mild-mannered !!!

kennster assaulted kaouch into lane 3 !!!

this shows the "ethics" of the man...

what actually really happened wrote:

what actually happened wrote:

What is also interesting is that Bekele got dropped earlier in the race. Bekele didn't actually outkick Farah, he just was more comfortable going down the last hill where Farah was hurting and cautious. Farah finished faster but not fast enough.

What is even more interesting is that Bekele most certainly did NOT got dropped earlier in the race. He made a tactical decision to drop behind and let Geb and Mo churn to try to drop him.

Do you even follow this sport?

Nope. Bekele was dropped earlier in the race.

Nope. Playing mind games with Farah. If he was really dropped then KB wouldn't have come back and easily defeated Farah.