USATF Changes the Marathon Trials B Standards to match the new Olympic Standards; half standards remain unchanged

road rashed wrote:

Especially the guy that ran 2:18:02 on the lean. This was the right move.

I agree it was the right move, but I think that both Jesse Davis (2:18:02) and Chris Lemon (2:18:06) were guaranteed admission anyways with the old standard; USOC tends to make exceptions if you're very close (~5 seconds or less) to the standard, so it's likely that any 2:19:05 guys will get in as well.

habs wrote:

road rashed wrote:

Especially the guy that ran 2:18:02 on the lean. This was the right move.

I agree it was the right move, but I think that both Jesse Davis (2:18:02) and Chris Lemon (2:18:06) were guaranteed admission anyways with the old standard; USOC tends to make exceptions if you're very close (~5 seconds or less) to the standard, so it's likely that any 2:19:05 guys will get in as well.

Can't speak for the guys, but I've never known this to happen on the women's side of the house

Sucks for these Women from last Sunday at CIM. How many would have made it if they had this information 1 week ago and could have paced for 2:45 instead of going for 2:43 and blowing up.

144

Theresa Hailey

349

02:45:01

06:18

Portland, OR

27

F

F25-29

11

145

McKale Davis

335

02:45:06

06:19

Scottsdale, AZ

31

F

F30-34

15

146

Allison (Ali) Drynan

341

02:45:07

06:19

Toronto, Canada

39

F

F35-39

4

147

Jackie Pirtle-Hall

42

02:45:13

06:19

Saint Charles, MO

33

F

F30-34

16

148

Courtney Olsen

414

02:45:26

06:19

Bellingham, WA

28

F

F25-29

12

150

Lauren Fog

308

02:45:33

06:20

Boulder, CO

26

F

F25-29

13

153

Elizabeth Ryan

337

02:45:49

06:20

Boston, MA

25

F

F25-29

14

156

Christina Overbeck Crawford

369

02:45:56

06:20

Portland, OR

29

F

F25-29

15

157

Phebe Ko

566

02:46:00

06:21

San Francisco, CA

32

F

F30-34

17

158

Aleta Jokisch

408

02:46:01

06:21

Tucson, AZ

25

F

F25-29

16

160

Raquel Stucky

50

02:46:18

06:21

Wichita, KS

40

F

F40-44

1

161

Emma Kenyon

4709

02:46:19

06:21

Broomfield, CO

27

F

F25-29

17

164

Joasia Zakrzewski

14

02:46:25

06:22

Dumfries, United Kingdom

39

F

F35-39

5

166

Karen Bertasso

314

02:46:38

06:22

Albany, NY

31

F

F30-34

18

167

Adrian Neal

303

02:46:41

06:22

Colorado

32

F

F30-34

19

170

Laura Cadiz

315

02:46:50

06:23

Portland, OR

37

F

F35-39

6

How and why do Women 8 f^cking minutes!!!!!!!

Our article on this quick action (congrats to them for doing something quick) by USATF is now up:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/12/usatf-acts-swiftly-relaxes-standards-2016-olympic-trials-219-men-245-women-match-olympic-standards/

We were in the process of trying to figure out if USATF was required to do so by the Ted Stevens Amateur sports act. It's an interesting read for sure.

It's online here:

http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/2016/U-S--Olympic-Team-Trials---Marathon/Qualifying-Standards.aspx

Good to see that it's in effect for this year; must be a pleasant surprise for all the 2:18:xx guys.

LetsRun.com's article on this quick action (congrats to them for doing something quick) by USATF is now up:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/12/usatf-acts-swiftly-relaxes-standards-2016-olympic-trials-219-men-245-women-match-olympic-standards/

We were in the process of trying to figure out if USATF was required to do so by the Ted Stevens Amateur sports act. It's an interesting read for sure.

Great coverage, exactly the reason why LetsRun trumps flotrack

Corndogs Jackie!! wrote:

Great coverage, exactly the reason why LetsRun trumps flotrack

We have updated the article with a few interesting tidbits so if you've already read it, you might want to re-read it.

rojo wrote:

Corndogs Jackie!! wrote:

Great coverage, exactly the reason why LetsRun trumps flotrack

We have updated the article with a few interesting tidbits so if you've already read it, you might want to re-read it.

" Laura Harnish (2:42:09), Erin Moeller (2:42:27), Samantha McClellan (2:42:41), Emily Potter (2:42:56)"

Why are these ladies included in your list of people affected by this time adjustment? They qualified under the 2:43 time anyway.

any mouse troll wrote:

rojo wrote:

We have updated the article with a few interesting tidbits so if you've already read it, you might want to re-read it.

" Laura Harnish (2:42:09), Erin Moeller (2:42:27), Samantha McClellan (2:42:41), Emily Potter (2:42:56)"

Why are these ladies included in your list of people affected by this time adjustment? They qualified under the 2:43 time anyway.

Because we were listing women who gained the Olympic standard (which used to be 2:42). Before the change, they had the OT standard but not the Olympic standard.

Wow look at the list and times of athletes throughout the world that will not be going. Its endless.

Are those chip times?

I think the rule was they'd make an exception if the start time was over by a little, but the chip time was under.

So none of those athletes listed would be allowed in, right?

Rojo, does this mean that everyone that has run those times from the beginning of the qualifying period LAST year of 2014, even at Grandma's/CIM/Boston will also be allowed in? (just because the courses are not Olympic standard, but USATF will accept them for the Trials only). Or do only people who ran 2:19/2:45 in 2015 ONLY and NOT at those races? That does change the number of people who get in.

blair teal ran a 2.18.53 at medtronics 2014. he is listed here, click on marathon men statuhttp://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/2016/U-S--Olympic-Team-Trials---Marathon/Status-of-Entries.aspxs of entry.