Has this ever happened before?
It would be interesting to see how the team scores would look for top-3 for each team at the NCAA meet. 'Nova is probably a top-10 school in that case.
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- Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Lenny Leonard
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As far as I know, it hasn't. Villanovas gotta get some big time northeast to commit however, if they want to better there program. Not a ton of young guys or depth in their roster. I know guys like ferro from jersey and ben petrella are yet to commit, and they could def be game changers for nova a couple of years from now
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Lenny Leonard
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Their 4th guy almost made it too
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to bigtool05
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Their 4th guy (Warnick) wouldn't have made it, the Penn state kid (Quinn) would have gone
bigtool05 wrote:
Their 4th guy almost made it too
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to mmpr
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I think that is what makes it an almost:) Obviosly would have had to beaten the penn state guy and the region would need a 5th qualifer.
I always find it amazing when a team needs there 5th man to be like 4 seconds faster to qualify.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to asdadsfa
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It was definitely a close race. Aside from Tiernan taking it from mile 4
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to mmpr
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It has happened before on the women's side. Back in 1996, the Villanova women, led by Carrie Tollefson and (I think) Jen Rhines and Carmen Douma, sent three individuals to the NCAA. I am also fairly certain that in 2001 or 2002, Cornell women had three women at the NCAAs.
Not sure about the men's side, however.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Lenny Leonard
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Are the Villanova women going? Ever since Sheila Reid and Emily Lipari, they haven't done anything. You would think they would get top level recruits every year given the amount of national titles they have.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Kevin Hadsell
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Scratch that...
In 2001, Cornell women had FOUR individual qualifiers and no team at the meet. I remember that Lou Doussing brought the fifth runner and tried to petition the NCAA to allow her to run.
That's never happened before or since.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Black Med Student
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Yes, the Villanova women are going as an at-large team as one of the last qualifiers. They finished 4th in their regional race.
Black Med Student wrote:
Are the Villanova women going? Ever since Sheila Reid and Emily Lipari, they haven't done anything. You would think they would get top level recruits every year given the amount of national titles they have.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Kevin Hadsell
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Thanks, that is a wild stat!
Kevin Hadsell wrote:
Scratch that...
In 2001, Cornell women had FOUR individual qualifiers and no team at the meet. I remember that Lou Doussing brought the fifth runner and tried to petition the NCAA to allow her to run.
That's never happened before or since.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Lenny Leonard
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Curious. Didn't the Villanova men have 3 individual qualifiers about 7-10 years ago as well?
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Factual Evidence
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Princeton men had 3 in 2007
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Jersey Shore's Finest
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It's funny, if Georgetown didn't qualify as a team they would also send 3 individuals and if Penn didn't qualify they would send almost 3 individuals (Shearn would've been 5th individual behind Quinn from Penn st.)
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Jersey Shore's Finest
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It is the coaches fault for not racing anyone all year. The Big East is weaker now that it has been and Paul Short was the biggest meet they went to all year. Had they run at any other big meet, they would have made it into the meet.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to bad schedule
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It's happened on the men's side before.
Rice men had 3 individual qualifiers when Magness was there.
It was Hewamudalige, Magness, and Loftin who all individually qualified, but no team.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Asadetf
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Is it really that shocking? There are like a couple of schools with distance tradition (georgetown, villanova, and to some extent penn state) and a couple of ivys (penn, princeton) who will get good runners. And navy is sort of its own category with free tuition but a different set of requirements The rest of the schools are pretty much in the get a good runner every now and then camp (UMBC) but rarely are competive. Heck I would bet half of them don't even give out scholarships to distance guys. Getting 3 people is a bit rare but 2 happens pretty much every year as the 3rd place team normally has 2-3 big studs and the team battle between them finishing 2nd or 3rd comes down to the 4th and 5th man
Asadetf wrote:
It's funny, if Georgetown didn't qualify as a team they would also send 3 individuals and if Penn didn't qualify they would send almost 3 individuals (Shearn would've been 5th individual behind Quinn from Penn st.)
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Lenny Leonard
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It almost happened with Liberty, but the 1-2 punch of McDougal and Chelanga was just enough to get the full team into nats.
For teams that are on the bubble, you really have to race 4 times before conference or win or 2nd place in the regional meet.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to Yistorian
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Villanova is a better team than Furman right? Furman just ran one quality invite and picked up enough points to pretty much lock up a berth so long as they got 5th or better at regionals.
Wisco or Pre-nats should be a must on the calendar.
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- RE: Villanova - 3 individual qualifiers but no team at NCAAs - in reply to asdadsfa
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Not really saying it's shocking. Just said it was interesting. But yeah you have a good point.
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